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#33 of 76 Re: Cobalt and Cavalier? [brookesmithey] by cobaltls Jul 14, 2005 (8:01 pm)
Replying to: brookesmithey (Mar 31, 2005 9:54 pm) I disagree brookesmithey. I own a Cobalt LS and if you look at it from the side it resembles a cavalier. From the back it looks nothing like a cavalier but the side and possibly the front definatly has some aspects of a cavy.
#34 of 76 Re: Colbalt vs. Focus vs. others [dieselg4] by spchampton Aug 06, 2005 (5:30 pm)
Replying to: dieselg4 (Dec 13, 2004 12:51 pm) The Chevy Cobalt is a much much better car than the Ford Focus or the Mazda 3, It has a heck of alot more power than the Mazda 3 or the Ford Focus. I know this because I have gone head to head with each car. The cobalt not only took both cars off the line but stayed ahead of them the whole time. The styling is far superior that of the Focus or the 3. I have also driven the focus which sits way to high and does not handle as well as the Cobalt. Replies to this message: mdaffron (Aug 08, 2005 5:31 am) vanace (Jul 06, 2006 4:33 pm)
#35 of 76 Re: Colbalt vs. Focus vs. others [spchampton] by mdaffron Aug 08, 2005 (5:31 am)
Replying to: spchampton (Aug 06, 2005 5:30 pm) Huh? How do you figure?   Here are a few stats and comments from Car & Driver magazine regarding your Cobalt and my Mazda3:   Cobalt: 2.2-liter, DOHC 16-valve inline four with twin balance shafts: 145 hp Mazda3: 2.3-liter, DOHC, 16-valve inline four with twin balance shafts and variable valve timing: 160 hp   Acceleration, seconds: Cobalt, 0-60 mph: 8.4 Mazda3, 0-60 mph: 7.4 (Both had manual transmissions)   And acceleration isn't everything. What did C&D think of that old-fashioned twist-beam rear axle in the Cobalt?   "Still, extra body roll and softer helm responses—there's a reason twist-beam axles aren't on F1 cars—mean less entertainment for the Cobalt driver than for drivers in some other value cars, notably the Focus and Mazda 3."   Hmmm.   Some other stats they measured:   Braking, 70-0 mph impending lockup: Cobalt, 188 ft Mazda3, 169 ft   Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: Cobalt, 0.77 g Mazda3, 0.87 g   Now, get an SS and maybe we'll have something here -- but keep in mind that it's no longer in the same pricing league as the Mazda3 -- C&D reports the base price of the Cobalt SS is $21,995, and the SS it tested had a sticker of $24,560. My 2005 Mazda3s hatch had a sticker of just over $17.5K.   I guess the moral to the story is, bring some numbers with you next time. There are too many variables in traffic-light drag races (including a big one -- the honesty of the reporting party) for them to be very reputable against actual measurements taken by the automotive press under much more controlled conditions with people who know how to drive cars.   Meade   P.S. Styling is very subjective. But since you went there, we had a '95 Cavalier in our driveway for five years and the Cobalt looks WAY too much like it 10 years later.
#36 of 76 One other question ... by mdaffron Aug 09, 2005 (6:44 am)
Were you "racing" a 3i or a 3s? Do you know the difference?   Meade
#37 of 76 mdaffron - here are the numbers by muffin_man Aug 10, 2005 (8:19 am)
I guess the moral to the story is, bring some numbers with you next time.   Mazda 3i [2.0 liter] 144hp/135tq Cobalt [2.2 liter] 145hp/155tq (obviously a big advantage here)   Mazda 3s [2.3 liter] 160hp/150tq (less than the base Cobalt) Cobalt SS[2.4 liter] 170hp/170tq (to be released)   Mazdaspeed 3 [???] ???hp (to be released) Cobalt SS S/C [2.0 liter] 205hp/200tq   So there are the numbers - the Cobalt wins on power easily (it also weighs an extra hundred pounds). Is it the better car or the better performer - different discussion. These are just the numbers.
#38 of 76 And on that note by pat HOST Aug 11, 2005 (11:10 am)
let's drop the Mazdas from this conversation since they are not part of the topic.
#39 of 76 Focus or Cobalt? by mspeach Aug 12, 2005 (12:33 pm)
I had a 2000 Focus and loved it, but totalled it in a wreck and I replaced it with a Cobalt. Although I loved the Focus, I have found that the Cobalt is a much smoother, quieter, solid car. Very comfortable, and gets better gas milege than the Focus. I went into the Cobalt because of the employee discount deals, which Ford now also has, but didn't at that time, or I may have bought a new Focus, but am really glad that I tried the Cobalt. The only thing I don't like about the Cobalt is that the trunk opening is small. It has an ample trunk but the opening is small and higher than the Focus, so it is hard to get something big and heavy in by myself.
#40 of 76 Cobalt vs. Focus...but what about the Ion? by allfiredup Aug 18, 2005 (8:25 pm)
I've never owned a domestic car, but I actually like the Cobalt. I think it's decent looking (especially compared to the Cavalier) and the interior is a huge improvement for GM. The Focus is really looking old to me. The new Focus interior helps some, but not enough. Also, I hate that only the ST has the 2.3L and all the others have the weak 2.0L. At least on the Cobalt they offer a choice of the 2.2L with 145hp or 2.4L with 171hp.   The forgotten domestic subcompact seems to be the Ion. It's a little cheaper than the Cobalt with the same drivetrain on the same platform. I think it looks better than the Cobalt, but you do have to contend with the center mounted instruments. Sadly, when the introduced it in '03 it was only half-baked. Improvements for '05 has actually made it competitive but no one really seems to notice.
#41 of 76 focus v cobalt by welcenbach Nov 02, 2005 (8:37 am)
My daughter is buying her first car. Unfortunately neither she nor I know anything about these two. What is the bottom line? we are looking for cheap but dependable transportation. she has to buy an American car (for work related reasons) and these are the two we have come down to. Are either one dependable? Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Nov 02, 2005 4:52 pm) mosfetman (Jun 25, 2008 12:24 pm) dromedarius (Jul 22, 2008 9:54 am) vanace (Sep 15, 2008 3:22 pm) and 3 more... ljonk (Sep 15, 2008 1:20 am) poncho167 (Sep 15, 2008 5:52 am) and 1 more...
#42 of 76 Re: focus v cobalt [welcenbach] by explorerx4 Nov 02, 2005 (4:52 pm)
Replying to: welcenbach (Nov 02, 2005 8:37 am) are you looking to buy new or used? what has she been driving?

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