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Re: gmoudy [muffin_man]
by gmoudy
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Jun 11, 2005 (2:20 am)
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Replying to: muffin_man (Jun 11, 2005 12:33 am)
You'll need to show that to me. I looked up several crash test reports on the Cobalt and they all stated that it was not tested yet. The Cavalier has a 4 star frontal crash rating.
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locally...
by explorerx4
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Jun 11, 2005 (9:27 am)
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a 2000 explorer drifted out of it's lane and hit a cobalt . the cobalt driver was killed. don't forget the star rating is vs vehicles in the same class.
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Motortrend comparo
by ambull
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Jun 11, 2005 (11:09 am)
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Motortrend compared the sportiest models of several econos and rated Focus ST ahead of Cobalt, which was dead last - not sporty enuf. I agree.
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Title goes here
by muffin_man
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Jun 12, 2005 (1:34 am)
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gmoudy - go to iihs.org or nhtsa.gov
explorex4 - I'm sure someone in an explorer has killed someone in just about every car out there, don't single out the Cobalt.
ambull - I didn't really understand that comparison. The base Cobalt is not meant to compete with the Corolla XRS or the Focus ST. It competes with the regular Corolla and the regular Focus. If they're going to take the top of the line 'sport' models of these cars, why not use the Cobalt SS? If there is no sport-sedan version of the Cobalt, why include it, just makes it look bad.
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Re: Title goes here [muffin_man]
by ambull
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Jun 12, 2005 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: muffin_man (Jun 12, 2005 1:34 am)
They didn't compare the base Cobalt; they compared an LT I believe. They didn't do an SS because it's a coupe and they were comparing sedans. They compared the sportiest Cobalt sedan available. They didn't compare any Civics because none were sporty enough, so maybe they should have excluded the Cobalt too, but left it in because it is a new model.
The sportiest model would be the 2006 SS? sedan with the forthcoming 2.4 Ecotech, but that's not available yet.
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Re: Title goes here [muffin_man]
by explorerx4
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Jun 12, 2005 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: muffin_man (Jun 12, 2005 1:34 am)
i wasn't trying to single out the cobalt. i just happened to see a story in the paper about the acccident. a 4 star rating for any car of that class does not buy you much safety.
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Title goes here
by muffin_man
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Jun 12, 2005 (2:13 pm)
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ambull - They should have left it out. The LT is and has always been a 'luxury' trim. There is nothing sporty about the car, it does not compete with those other cars - it shouldn't have been in the competition
exporerx4 - Even a 5-star rating doesn't buy you much safety against a 4500+ pound truck. It's very unfortunate.
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Ford Focus ZX5 vs. Kia Spectra SX
by huntley
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Jun 13, 2005 (7:26 am)
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As a 54 year old male who does minimal driving, I am trying to decide on whether to purchase a Ford Focus ZX5 ($16,800) or a Kia Spectra SX (14,800). I have narrowed my choices down to TWO vehicles. According to Consumer Reports, the Ford Focus is rated number one, whereas the Kia Spectra is "out of contention" due to poor crash results . Owners of the Kia Spectra have said the car suffers from "nose plow" when braking, as well as "understeer" and a noisy engine at highway speeds. I tried BOTH vehicles and found that the Focus had a better seating position, but cheap looking interior materials. The Spectra's interior looked superior and the handling felt similar to the Focus, even though it had a much lower stance. This is a difficult decision. I also drove the Mazda3 but ruled it out because I found the seats were as hard as concrete. I tried the Cobalt and those seats were the same. The most comfortable seats are in the Focus and the Spectra. Because of Kia's poor history and "pooh poohing" from the auto industry, I am reluctant to purchase one, plus I have never seen one on the road. Even the salesperson at KIA told me the car was a hard sell. Could someone please offer some advice and suggestion to help me make my final choice? Are both cars silly looking for a 54 year old male? One added piece of info . . Kia and Ford are both conveniently located near my home.
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Re: Ford Focus ZX5 vs. Kia Spectra SX [huntley]
by pat HOST
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Jun 13, 2005 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: huntley (Jun 13, 2005 7:26 am)
Hi - welcome! I think the Low End Sedans is the best place of three you posted for this conversation, so let me ask those who would like to respond to continue at this link: huntley, "Low End Sedans" #3137, 13 Jun 2005 11:38 am.
Good luck!
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Re: Cobalt and Cavalier? [brookesmithey]
by cobaltls
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Jul 14, 2005 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: brookesmithey (Mar 31, 2005 9:54 pm)
I disagree brookesmithey. I own a Cobalt LS and if you look at it from the side it resembles a cavalier. From the back it looks nothing like a cavalier but the side and possibly the front definatly has some aspects of a cavy.
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