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#22 of 76 Re Cobalt and Cavalier by gmoudy Jun 10, 2005 (11:57 pm)
OK folks, let's look at some of the "better" points of the Cobalt compaired to the Cavalier. These will be on the coupe models only.   1. More headroom: Cobalt front 38.7 inches Cavalier front 37.6 inches. Not too much of a difference to be a big deal.   2. More horsepower: Cobalt 2.2L 145HP Cavalier 2.2L 140HP. Not too big of a deal since the Cobalt weighs about 374 pounds more than the Cavalier. You'll need the extra HP.   3. Both vehicles have almost the same interior volume and cargo space. Both vehicles are about the same in overall length.   4. If the Cobalt is supposed to be in the economy class, than why is it $3300 more than the Cavalier?   I've owned three Cavaliers and enjoyed all of them. In fact, I still drive a 1998 Z24. Looks and runs great. I cannot say that I like the Cobalt as a replacement for the Cavalier. This is my opinion. I know that some others just love their Cobalts. Everyone has their own likes. I just don't see the big deal about the Cobalt.
#23 of 76 gmoudy by muffin_man Jun 11, 2005 (12:33 am)
If nothing else, the Cavalier has some of the worst crash test results of any car in the US. The Cobalt is one of the class leaders. Replies to this message: gmoudy (Jun 11, 2005 2:20 am)
#24 of 76 Re: gmoudy [muffin_man] by gmoudy Jun 11, 2005 (2:20 am)
Replying to: muffin_man (Jun 11, 2005 12:33 am) You'll need to show that to me. I looked up several crash test reports on the Cobalt and they all stated that it was not tested yet. The Cavalier has a 4 star frontal crash rating.
#25 of 76 locally... by explorerx4 Jun 11, 2005 (9:27 am)
a 2000 explorer drifted out of it's lane and hit a cobalt . the cobalt driver was killed. don't forget the star rating is vs vehicles in the same class.
#26 of 76 Motortrend comparo by ambull Jun 11, 2005 (11:09 am)
Motortrend compared the sportiest models of several econos and rated Focus ST ahead of Cobalt, which was dead last - not sporty enuf. I agree.
#27 of 76 Title goes here by muffin_man Jun 12, 2005 (1:34 am)
gmoudy - go to iihs.org or nhtsa.gov   explorex4 - I'm sure someone in an explorer has killed someone in just about every car out there, don't single out the Cobalt.   ambull - I didn't really understand that comparison. The base Cobalt is not meant to compete with the Corolla XRS or the Focus ST. It competes with the regular Corolla and the regular Focus. If they're going to take the top of the line 'sport' models of these cars, why not use the Cobalt SS? If there is no sport-sedan version of the Cobalt, why include it, just makes it look bad. Replies to this message: ambull (Jun 12, 2005 6:50 am) explorerx4 (Jun 12, 2005 12:35 pm)
#28 of 76 Re: Title goes here [muffin_man] by ambull Jun 12, 2005 (6:50 am)
Replying to: muffin_man (Jun 12, 2005 1:34 am) They didn't compare the base Cobalt; they compared an LT I believe. They didn't do an SS because it's a coupe and they were comparing sedans. They compared the sportiest Cobalt sedan available. They didn't compare any Civics because none were sporty enough, so maybe they should have excluded the Cobalt too, but left it in because it is a new model.   The sportiest model would be the 2006 SS? sedan with the forthcoming 2.4 Ecotech, but that's not available yet.
#29 of 76 Re: Title goes here [muffin_man] by explorerx4 Jun 12, 2005 (12:35 pm)
Replying to: muffin_man (Jun 12, 2005 1:34 am) i wasn't trying to single out the cobalt. i just happened to see a story in the paper about the acccident. a 4 star rating for any car of that class does not buy you much safety.
#30 of 76 Title goes here by muffin_man Jun 12, 2005 (2:13 pm)
ambull - They should have left it out. The LT is and has always been a 'luxury' trim. There is nothing sporty about the car, it does not compete with those other cars - it shouldn't have been in the competition   exporerx4 - Even a 5-star rating doesn't buy you much safety against a 4500+ pound truck. It's very unfortunate.
#31 of 76 Ford Focus ZX5 vs. Kia Spectra SX by huntley Jun 13, 2005 (7:26 am)
As a 54 year old male who does minimal driving, I am trying to decide on whether to purchase a Ford Focus ZX5 ($16,800) or a Kia Spectra SX (14,800). I have narrowed my choices down to TWO vehicles. According to Consumer Reports, the Ford Focus is rated number one, whereas the Kia Spectra is "out of contention" due to poor crash results . Owners of the Kia Spectra have said the car suffers from "nose plow" when braking, as well as "understeer" and a noisy engine at highway speeds. I tried BOTH vehicles and found that the Focus had a better seating position, but cheap looking interior materials. The Spectra's interior looked superior and the handling felt similar to the Focus, even though it had a much lower stance. This is a difficult decision. I also drove the Mazda3 but ruled it out because I found the seats were as hard as concrete. I tried the Cobalt and those seats were the same. The most comfortable seats are in the Focus and the Spectra. Because of Kia's poor history and "pooh poohing" from the auto industry, I am reluctant to purchase one, plus I have never seen one on the road. Even the salesperson at KIA told me the car was a hard sell. Could someone please offer some advice and suggestion to help me make my final choice? Are both cars silly looking for a 54 year old male? One added piece of info . . Kia and Ford are both conveniently located near my home. Replies to this message: pat (Jun 13, 2005 8:47 am)

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