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#90 of 298 re: khoa / re: phil by objectiveview Oct 26, 2005 (8:00 pm)
So by that formula, i should assume the new GT-R is no skyline........oh wait.......its not isnt it? Deal with it....the only company sticking to I6 engines is BMW, and their inline 6's will be phased out soon too. If u want turbos, go aftermarket, cause a supra turbo will be more expensive than an NA v6 and the same thing will happen all over again, like in the late 90's.   fill... exactly what i'm talking about u see where i'm coming from Replies to this message: khoa (Oct 29, 2005 1:25 pm)
#91 of 298 hey by nippononly Oct 26, 2005 (10:33 pm)
Celica is gone, Scion covers the lower end sport coupe, a $22K 204 hp Supra would fit the line perfectly. Maybe $23 or 24K. And with RWD, it would be in a class of one at the lower price! It would eat up RX-8 and bottom end 350Z sales despite the power deficit, I am sure, if it were a couple/few thousand $$ less. At least, until the BMW 2-series with the 325's engine shows up.   And I am sure a $30K 306 hp Supra would kill in the market. Just please, Toyota, don't get too out of hand with the options and packages. Give it superlative handling and a great stereo at the base price, and keep most of the high-end options for the Lexus version.   Nissan does FANTASTICALLY well selling both 350Z's in FOUR DIFFERENT trims AND a G35 coupe, and BMW sells plenty of coupes and four-doors with two different engines. I don't know why everyone is so pessimistic about Toyota's odds of being able to sell so many variants of the IS platform, some labelled Supra, some labelled IS. Toyota engineering is every bit the equal of these other companies, IMO, even if their days of the most sporting models for the street ARE a few years behind them now.
#92 of 298 . by objectiveview Oct 27, 2005 (2:26 pm)
Well the market can only support that many sport cars....... And you dont want to imagine the uproar a 204hp supra would cause. Doesnt matter if there is another higher powered version.......no new supra should be less powerful than the last generation one. Marketing suicide. And the 350z's 4 different trims are all based around the SAME engine and power rating in a braket of about 30hp. An RX-8 bases at about 25k.... toyota isnt gonna get a weak ass supra sold a 22-24k, but a 350z stomping behemoth at 26-32k would do just fine. Its about image really.............a 204hp Supra would do nothing but weaken the little respect they have left for building a competent sport car.
#93 of 298 well by nippononly Oct 28, 2005 (7:34 am)
how about a version of the 3.0, making 250 hp or so? The IS rides on a shortened version of the GS platform right? So engineering costs would probably be low to pop the 3.0 from the GS into an IS-based Supra. Selling at $25K. With superlative handling at base price. And yes, a great stereo.   I am sure that in a couple of years, this is where the IS is going anyway. IS 300 and IS460. I like that for the Supra. 250 and 350 hp variants, selling at $25K and $32K base price, respectively. With IS coupe variants of each, selling at about a $8K premium over the Supra with the same powertrain, and of course packing a whole lot more of that Lexus panache and standard equipment.
#94 of 298 . by objectiveview Oct 28, 2005 (1:28 pm)
You just want a cheap car that has the supra name on the back dont you? Being based on the IS/GS platform, this car CANT get any lighter that 1300kg, and that would be using aluminium body panels. 250hp, is not gonna cut it. yes the base price should be as low as 26k, but fully loaded, it shouldnt really be any higher than 32-34k. Toyota/ Lexus wont offer a similiar number of variants across their line, because they are trying to diffentiate their lines as they go global. * They did say we would not get any more lexuses that are redisigned toyotas, but that does not meant they wont share platforms across the whole range.* I personally think (and would like to see that) the GS and IS make a swap...the IS gets the 255hp 3.0l to make an IS300 to replace the IS250, while the GS gets the IS350's 3.5 L to make a GS350.... then the GS430 would be dropped and replaced by the GS450h. Any version of either the IS or GS carrying the future LS 4.6L v8 would be in the vein of a performance oriented version......i'm not convinced that a GS460 is a given upgrade for next year, (and its not been confirmed, have no idea where the rumor came from) and I dont think it makes sense either if its not something akin to an 'M' or 'AMG' version as it would have pretty much similar output to the 450 hybrid. ....................................... sorry for the off topic rant , anyway, What i'm saying is toyota is capable of making a 3.5L n/a Supra, that comes stock well equipped and with a good stero and with options to be in the price range of 26-35k...and thats the only verion that would mke sense..business wise, marketing wise, REPUTATION wise and of course to satisfy the legion of aspiring supra owners (at least those sensible enough to realise the 2JZ turbo aint coming back).
#95 of 298 re: khoa / re: phil [objectiveview] by khoa Oct 29, 2005 (1:25 pm)
Replying to: objectiveview (Oct 26, 2005 8:00 pm) the only company sticking to I6 engines is BMW   Hmm ... 3-series is still the one to beat, or isn't it   BTW, the turbo is the only reason why the 93+ Supra is special, worth as much today as if they were new.
#96 of 298 .^^^ by objectiveview Oct 30, 2005 (9:09 am)
Maybe in terms of sport sedans, but not really anywhere else now is it?   And no, the turbo isn't the only thing that made the car special......maybe it makes it more valuable than the NA version, but here are a lot of things about the supra that make it special and desireable.
#97 of 298 Will the Supra even come? by rb1 Oct 31, 2005 (11:27 am)
Great discussions on this board, considering this forum has been dead for a while. With that said, is the Supra dead? I mean I've seen all of the rumors of the Supra coming back for quite some time, but is there any definitive information confirming the Supra's revival in 07. If so, it may coincide with the IS coupe being released in 07 as well. For a new release to be coming out in basically a year, I would assume to have some solid facts to rely on. Anybody out there got anything? Replies to this message: carlisimo (Oct 31, 2005 12:25 pm)
#98 of 298 Supra by navigator89 Oct 31, 2005 (12:00 pm)
I hope Toyota brings the Supra for their sake. It could go a long way towards boosting their image. As it is Toyota has a reputation for making well built, luxurious vehicles that are however bland and lacking style and personality. This car could boost that image.   Not like Toyota needs a homerun, they already have many, but this car is more about making a statement.
#99 of 298 Re: Will the Supra even come? [rb1] by carlisimo Oct 31, 2005 (12:25 pm)
Replying to: rb1 (Oct 31, 2005 11:27 am) As far as I know, the last Supra rumors with any hint of reality date back a year or two. Artist renderings were floating around, there were supposed spyshots, people said that Toyota said a concept would come out at a certain motor show (which passed without any mention of a future Supra at all)...   No one knew what kind of sports car the rumored Supra would be, but apparently we were all fooled and everything led to the Lexus LF-A.   Toyota hasn't said anything about a new Supra for a long time, basically.

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