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any forthcoming Supra would be heavily based on the IS, which leads to the guess that therewould be a Supra250 and a Supra350, just the way there used to be an NA model and a TT as well. That would almost exactly match the Mustang hp for hp, the only question is whether Toyota would want to bring out a low-$20Ks model, or would want to stick to the over-$30K market.
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 25, 2005 6:19 am) |
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| but bear in mind that BMW charges more for its coupe than for its four-door, no reason Lexus couldn't do so as well. Which would mean maybe $32K for an IS250 coupe, $38K for an IS350 coupe. Whereas I was thinking of a $22K Supra 2.5 and perhaps $30K Supra 3.5. All the best options would be reserved for the Lexus cars, of course, with the Supra more of a purpose-built sport coupe without trying to be everything to all people, the way the 350Z tries to be. It would also match the IS coupes up well, pricewise, to the G35 coupe, while undercutting the 330Ci. | |
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| nice idea, but i'd prefer my supra in one flavour, thats 3.5 for $26-30k base price thank you. Furthermore, I dont think toyota would want to sell a Supra at a 22k price point...sports car image is important and at 22k would make it 'just another cheap toy'. And i doubt lexus would make both a 250 and a 350 coupe...if they have more than one model coupe, one would likely be an IS460 or something like that. The supra would never be all things to all people and i certainly dont think the 350z is that either. Why rob the supra of what it is just to accomodate a lower end lexus? from their history, seems like toyota/lexus thinks up, not down | |
| No Supra for me and the rest of the Supra devotees. Without an inline-6, it's not a Supra; so please, nothing based on the IS V6. | |
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If you get 306HP, a 6MT, and evolutionary sports car styling, for $30k, it's a great buy! Not gonna hold my breath for a $22k Supra, but with the traffic Toyota is now commanding, a well-made, cheaper Supra would sell and have legs, like a Z. Mazda doesn't have traffic so it's RX-8 sales are falling fast as the car ages. Toyota has grown greatly over the last 10 years, and spreading the cost with the IS, along with a viable sports car market at $30k, will make a good business case. DrFill |
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So by that formula, i should assume the new GT-R is no skyline........oh wait.......its not isnt it?  Deal with it....the only company sticking to I6 engines is BMW, and their inline 6's will be phased out soon too. If u want turbos, go aftermarket, cause a supra turbo will be more expensive than an NA v6 and the same thing will happen all over again, like in the late 90's. fill... exactly what i'm talking about u see where i'm coming from 
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Celica is gone, Scion covers the lower end sport coupe, a $22K 204 hp Supra would fit the line perfectly. Maybe $23 or 24K. And with RWD, it would be in a class of one at the lower price! It would eat up RX-8 and bottom end 350Z sales despite the power deficit, I am sure, if it were a couple/few thousand $$ less. At least, until the BMW 2-series with the 325's engine shows up. And I am sure a $30K 306 hp Supra would kill in the market. Just please, Toyota, don't get too out of hand with the options and packages. Give it superlative handling and a great stereo at the base price, and keep most of the high-end options for the Lexus version. Nissan does FANTASTICALLY well selling both 350Z's in FOUR DIFFERENT trims AND a G35 coupe, and BMW sells plenty of coupes and four-doors with two different engines. I don't know why everyone is so pessimistic about Toyota's odds of being able to sell so many variants of the IS platform, some labelled Supra, some labelled IS. Toyota engineering is every bit the equal of these other companies, IMO, even if their days of the most sporting models for the street ARE a few years behind them now. |
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Well the market can only support that many sport cars....... And you dont want to imagine the uproar a 204hp supra would cause. Doesnt matter if there is another higher powered version.......no new supra should be less powerful than the last generation one. Marketing suicide. And the 350z's 4 different trims are all based around the SAME engine and power rating in a braket of about 30hp. An RX-8 bases at about 25k.... toyota isnt gonna get a weak ass supra sold a 22-24k, but a 350z stomping behemoth at 26-32k would do just fine. Its about image really.............a 204hp Supra would do nothing but weaken the little respect they have left for building a competent sport car. |
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how about a version of the 3.0, making 250 hp or so? The IS rides on a shortened version of the GS platform right? So engineering costs would probably be low to pop the 3.0 from the GS into an IS-based Supra. Selling at $25K. With superlative handling at base price. And yes, a great stereo. I am sure that in a couple of years, this is where the IS is going anyway. IS 300 and IS460. I like that for the Supra. 250 and 350 hp variants, selling at $25K and $32K base price, respectively. With IS coupe variants of each, selling at about a $8K premium over the Supra with the same powertrain, and of course packing a whole lot more of that Lexus panache and standard equipment. |
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