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Toyota Supra, Coupe
#250 of 299 Re: Aah Gah Gah [psychoart]
Jun 27, 2006 (12:07 pm)
I disagree. Even though a hybrid Supra might run circles around a lot of things, in the U.S., the car will likely not sell. This country is facing a major recession, and the majority of consumers tend to go for practical during bad economic times. Two-door sport cars, hybrid or not, are hardly practical.
Before getting into arguments about the impending recession, a good look at the over-bought stock market, ridiculous trade deficit, crumbling real estate markets, pathetic job situation, and sky-rocketing energy prices should provide a clue as to what's headed our way economy-wise.
The new Camry, especially the hybrid, and the new Rav4, are Toyota's power plays. A new Supra won't even register as a blip on the radar. The timing is just wrong.
And by the way - I'm a huge Supra fan - owned two of them. Best cars I ever had.
#252 of 299 Re: 2007 toyota supra [sc_owner]
Jul 10, 2006 (3:45 pm)
Performance sedans are for wannabe sporty driver, but not a real thing. They can't be used much for sporting or racing purposes.
Sorry dude, but I think it's the SC's that are wannabe sporty cars. Underpowered and soft sprung, the only "sporty" attributes are their owners trying to portray them as performance cars. My stock GS400 sedan will run circles around any SC past or present and smoke it on the drag strip. My old Supra would do the same. Heck, even my 4-cyl Subaru can easily outrun and outhandle the SC.
SC, while a very nice vehicle, was a car with no market direction - it was too cramped to be a true luxury car, and too soft and underpowered to be even remotely sporty, that's why it's dead.
But, as long as you enjoy your SC, the more power to you. It will be reliable and serve you well for a very long time.
#253 of 299 Re: Supra 2007 [bjs1997]
Jul 23, 2006 (4:48 am)
Post elsewhere? Import > American
BTW Do you own a Lexus LX470??? =]
#254 of 299 Harsh words for one of the best luxury cars ever made!
Aug 06, 2006 (6:59 pm)
Wasn't designed to be a "performance car", although it the 400 was a sub-7 second car, it performed very well.
It was a Luxury GT, and one of the best ever. Didn't really have any weaknesses. Newer technologies just caught up with it, that's all. Lexus rested on it's laurels, and got caught flatfooted. The market passed it by, after 7-8 years.
If you have owned one anywhere near the prime of it's life, congrats!
Oct 06, 2006 (7:02 am)
everyone has seen by now that R&T this month has a blurb in the Future Cars section on the 2008 Supra. It appears the on-again off-again rumors on this car are on again for now. Who knows. They say they have confirmation that Toyota is definitely working on a new Supra, even as Nissan gets ready to put out the next-gen 350Z (which will be little changed by the looks of it). Could be rumors, could be lies, who knows.
But I like the looks of the car they have illustrated in the picture. And they say Toyota is aiming for a $30K price point, and that the car will mechanically be an IS350 (but with a manual option I assume, whereas the IS350 is automatic-only). They are guessing a neighborhood of 350 hp - that engine makes 306 in the Lexus today, and I think they might be optimistic on the 350 figure. But even if it gets to 320 hp that will be pretty good in a 3200-pound body, and of course it will still be naturally aspirated, which I prefer to turbos and S/Cs.
I hope it really happens. I will start to save now - I expect that, knowing Toyota, the base price will be more like $35K, so I need to save a down payment!
#257 of 299 Re: so I suppose [nippononly]
Oct 06, 2006 (10:14 pm)
I don't know about 2008. IS coupe will be late summer 07 and then the convertible IS in early 2008. I guess the Supra will be more like 2008 Summer model, which will make it a 2009 car? Which might be the same year for the Lexus GT? Look for sales in Europe to double again easily once those few cars come out.
#258 of 299 Pie in the Sky!
Oct 07, 2006 (7:54 pm)
But let's entertain the lastest rumors.
As I puruse my coveted 1993 brouchure, the legendary 6-speed Supra Turbo had 320HP, 315 lb-ft., and weighed 3415 lbs.
I would bet the Next Supra would increase in power over a 15 year-old predecessor, no? I would expect 350HP, as the Z will be more powerful too.
If they made it any lighter than the last one, 0-60 would be solidly under 5 seconds!
Be mindful that the 2008 Mitsubishi Evo X is also supposed to have power in the 320HP neighborhood, plus lose weight to the tune of 2-300 lbs., weighing in at a rumored 3000 lbs. (more likely 3200).
One thing I do know for sure. It will be better than the Z, just like it was last time! better looking, too!
That next Evo X is pretty sweet, doh! That's my next car, at this moment in time.
#259 of 299 Re: Pie in the Sky! [drfill]
Oct 07, 2006 (11:03 pm)
Fear not Doc! The base engine on that '93 made about 230 hp, so we have come a long way, baby!
The optional engine in the '09 Supra should make 400 hp, I think, and yes, R&T is predicting a 0-60 of around 4.5 seconds.