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#243 of 298 Hole in the line up by sorter Jun 20, 2006 (4:59 pm)
From product planning standpoint, after killing the MR2 and Cileca there is a big hole in the lineup. Toyota is actively challenging GM/F in every vehicle class including 1/2 ton and soon 3/4 and 1 ton class. It is really hard to beleive they will let this "hole"(sport RWD vehicle)unfilled for too long. Next fall will come the IS500 coupe, and that is a good time for lauch of a Toyota (lower cost) sports car base on the same IS/GS platform. If they will use the Supra name or not, it is hard to guess. Replies to this message: samiam_68 (Jun 21, 2006 8:42 am) rorr (Jun 21, 2006 1:20 pm) sorter (Jun 21, 2006 5:08 pm)
#244 of 298 Here's the latest! by drfill Jun 20, 2006 (6:50 pm)
Toyota to Revive Sports-Car Lineup      Washington, DC - June 20, 2006: The AIADA newsletter reported that Toyota executives overseas say they are gearing up to revive the automaker's sports-car lineup, according to The Wall Street Journal.   The new model "is going to be a global project, not one aimed at one region more than another," said Tokuo Fukuichi, a Toyota official from France. According to Shinzo Kobuki, Toyota managing officer in charge of development of hybrid systems, the company wants more sporty cars under its brand to compete with German luxury automakers such as Mercedes-Benz, Audi, and BMW.     AutoChannel.com     DrFill
#245 of 298 Expect by drfill Jun 20, 2006 (6:54 pm)
Them to use the 1960's "GT" moniker (as in 5000GT for a 5.0 V8), or Supra, as these are Toyota's only credible entries in their history as premium sports cars.        Also expect something next summer.       DrFill
#246 of 298 Re: Hole in the line up [sorter] by samiam_68 Jun 21, 2006 (8:42 am)
Replying to: sorter (Jun 20, 2006 4:59 pm) From product planning standpoint, after killing the MR2 and Cileca there is a big hole in the lineup.   Isn't that what Scion is for? Replies to this message: rorr (Jun 21, 2006 1:20 pm) sorter (Jun 21, 2006 5:08 pm)
#247 of 298 Re: Hole in the line up [samiam_68] by rorr Jun 21, 2006 (1:20 pm)
Replying to: samiam_68 (Jun 21, 2006 8:42 am) "Isn't that what Scion is for?"   The hole in the lineup was for performance cars. Scion is an attempt to attract more first time buyers to Toyota (to reverse the trend of older and older folks buying Toyotas).   As far as I'm concerned Scion doesn't offer any performance cars (this coming from the owner of a Celica GTS who was might pissed when Toyota killed off all their performance cars).   Yes, I've driven the Scion tC. Yes, I really really wanted to like the tC (since it appears to be a good value). The tC is no replacement for my GTS. Replies to this message: sorter (Jun 21, 2006 5:08 pm)
#248 of 298 Re: Hole in the line up [rorr] by sorter Jun 21, 2006 (5:08 pm)
Replying to: rorr (Jun 21, 2006 1:20 pm) Between the 17K Scion and the 33K IS, there are plenty of room. Toyota has countless SUVs from Rav4 to L.C., if the same logic applies here, Toyota can fit 2 products between IS and Scion.
#249 of 298 Aah Gah Gah by psychoart Jun 27, 2006 (10:30 am)
Sometimes, it's not whether the car will sell or not. Toyota will have to show from time to time to consumers and prospective owners/buyers that it has the muscles, and possesses up-to-date and possibly the most advanced technologies available for sale with complete testing. In other words, it's called show off.   You might say that Lexus is the place where you show off, but that may not be necessarily true. Toyota is the root of the family. No one should laugh about it. I anticipate Toyota to bring the Supra in 1-2 years from now, after the Camry launch. It is inevitable since Toyota will need to recuperate money invested in the R&D for the hybrid, and to put forth more production and expertise of the hybrid system to lead the market.   Furthermore, Toyota does not want anyone else going in front of them with that technology. Otherwise, it will be a total shame. With a Lexus sedan in place utilizing a V8 hybrid, Toyota can now definitely bring a sport car with a V6 system without making fun of its luxury crowds in the States.   By mass producing more hybrid system, Toyota can lower the price of its technology in the longer run. Hence, Toyota will be able to achieve the starting price of nowadays sport car like the Z in the 30k. The Corvette was running all over the Porsche because it costed 40k instead of 60k. Well now, the new Supra would circle around GM with flying colors on Hybrid technology in more mpg. Replies to this message: samiam_68 (Jun 27, 2006 12:07 pm)
#250 of 298 Re: Aah Gah Gah [psychoart] by samiam_68 Jun 27, 2006 (12:07 pm)
Replying to: psychoart (Jun 27, 2006 10:30 am) I disagree. Even though a hybrid Supra might run circles around a lot of things, in the U.S., the car will likely not sell. This country is facing a major recession, and the majority of consumers tend to go for practical during bad economic times. Two-door sport cars, hybrid or not, are hardly practical.   Before getting into arguments about the impending recession, a good look at the over-bought stock market, ridiculous trade deficit, crumbling real estate markets, pathetic job situation, and sky-rocketing energy prices should provide a clue as to what's headed our way economy-wise.   The new Camry, especially the hybrid, and the new Rav4, are Toyota's power plays. A new Supra won't even register as a blip on the radar. The timing is just wrong.   And by the way - I'm a huge Supra fan - owned two of them. Best cars I ever had.
#252 of 298 Re: 2007 toyota supra [sc_owner] by samiam_68 Jul 10, 2006 (3:45 pm)
Performance sedans are for wannabe sporty driver, but not a real thing. They can't be used much for sporting or racing purposes.   Sorry dude, but I think it's the SC's that are wannabe sporty cars. Underpowered and soft sprung, the only "sporty" attributes are their owners trying to portray them as performance cars. My stock GS400 sedan will run circles around any SC past or present and smoke it on the drag strip. My old Supra would do the same. Heck, even my 4-cyl Subaru can easily outrun and outhandle the SC.   SC, while a very nice vehicle, was a car with no market direction - it was too cramped to be a true luxury car, and too soft and underpowered to be even remotely sporty, that's why it's dead.   But, as long as you enjoy your SC, the more power to you. It will be reliable and serve you well for a very long time.   Peace...

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