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welll by nippononly
Mar 10, 2006 (12:27 pm)
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if Toyota made an up-trim Supra with the 350 hp V-8 out of the future LS460 and a Toyota interior and priced it at $40K, then Corvette had better watch out!
 
The lower-trim Supra with the 300 hp V-6 out of the GS would have to be priced around $30K, or it would die in the battle with the Nissan cars (not to mention ten other cars of various configurations and a ton of sport at that price).
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As I said before, by drfill
Mar 10, 2006 (2:04 pm)
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The Vette should not, CANNOT, be seen as a primary competitor of ANY SUPRA, no matter how great!
  
   If they can make a 450HP Supra, with MT, for $3-4k less than a Vette, than maybe, otherwise, stay around $30k.
 
   The next Z, won't that have more than 300HP?
  
   If you are gonna show up to the party this late, come bearing gifts that won't get returned! 330HP is what will be required to start a true Supra renaissance, plus take sales from the NEXT Z, which still sells 20-30k a year after 4 years!
  
   DrFill
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Re: Supra [mikegiller] by solarascreamer
Mar 14, 2006 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: mikegiller (Mar 07, 2006 2:32 pm)

Take a look at the April '06 copy of Road & Track. There's a piece on what the new Supra may look like. After talking with a friend at Toyota's U.S. HQ in Torrance, CA, it was confirmed that Toyota is indeed doing a new Supra. While the new Solara is nice looking car(especially if you put in the TRD suspension so it doesn't look so~o lifted and a decent set of rims/tires, as I have) it was a radical styling departure for staid & conservative Toyota.
That being said, the Solara has been a huge sales success, especially in car-conscious markets such as SoCal. People have been craving a well-made, sporty car from Toyota. Simply going w/the TRD products (suspension, intake, exhaust) changes the Solara entirely. It goes from being a sporty looking/medium performance ride to a very sporty, hard-charging, corner-carving, eyebrow-raising machine. I have a fantastic relationship w/my local dealer and service advisor. As such, some people from Toyota have actually viewed and driven my car to get a better idea of the possibilities.
Back to the Supra. It will definitely be available in Japan. No decision yet on the U.S. But, U.S. execs want it. With the fact that the engine will already be in the U.S. in Lexus models (although in a different state of tune), it means the engine will be capable of meeting strict smog emissions standards (the reason we lost the last Supra, as well as the previous Nissan 300ZX and Mazda RX-7) and thereby certification will be fairly easy.
There's some other reasons also. Toyota is in F1 racing. They are in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck series and comme the 2007 season, they will also be in the regular NASCAR car series. That will raise Toyota's image even more in the U.S. and people will be looking for a sporty offering at Toyota dealers. Mazada's RX-8 has had weak sales due to the 4 door configuration and they are working on a new RX-7. Honda is developing replacements for the S2000 and Acura NSX. Nissan is bringing the new Skyline GTR to the U.S. as well as a next-gen 350Z replacement. Toyota is not going to sit idly by while other Japanese brands have all those performance cars out there. Expect Toyota to respond strongly in both the Toyota and Lexus brands. It is an acknowledged fact by all other auto companies, that Toyota has more cash and resources than any other automaker, so expect them to really start stepping it up.
Need evidence? Look at all their recent launches (Avalon, RAV4, IS350 and upcoming LS460 and Camry) and you will see a renewed empahsis on power, handling and product superiority.
One other note: Cash-strapped, junk bond status GM is looking to sell off their stake in Subaru. Most likely buyer? Toyota. Toyota has expressed strong interest as they are also currently in talks to buy Fuji Heavy Industries, Subaru's parent company.
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uhh??? by objectiveview
Mar 14, 2006 (5:46 pm)
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ummm, GM has already sold its stake (~20%) in FHI/Subaru and Toyota has already bought up 8.7%...where have you been?
 
-The solara an eybrow raising corner carver????
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Lexus Supercar by dokilat1
Mar 14, 2006 (6:42 pm)
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It's a go. The LF-A will be around $170k due out in 2008.
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Yup, corner carver by solarascreamer
Mar 14, 2006 (6:52 pm)
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Actually, Toyota owns more than that through some of their sub-companies.
As far as a corner carver, yeah. I took it to a track and had it tested by a "professional" driver. I've only been through the Bondurant course once, so I'm sure he was able to extract more than I could, but here are the numbers:
1. 1.01g lateral acceleration avg.
2. 71.8 through 600 ft. slalom course
3. 60-0 braking of 111.5 ft.
4. 0-60 acceleration of 5.8 sec.
Check those numbers, except for acceleration, the rest of those numbers are right up there w/Corvette Z06 and 911 Carrera S. I'm sure a big part of the credit goes to the tires, Michelin Pilot Sport 2's. At $300 each, I would expect it! We didn't do a top speed run, but after the dealer disabled the factory limit (130 mph), I got up to 145mph (on an empty stretch of fwy at about 3am!)before I lifted my foot. The car was still accelerating, but it took me years to get a clean dmv record, so I didn't want to risk it. Car was extremely steady at that speed.
Biggest key to extracting the max potential from a Lexus/Toyota is disabling the VSC/TRAC systems. The TRAC system has a dash button to do this, the VSC does not. However, there is a procedure involving a specific combo of brake pedal/emergency brake presses and releases that will disable the VSC. My service advisor and his one of his techs gave me this info. Only downside, after the car is shut off, everything resets.
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Re: Yup, corner carver [solarascreamer] by rorr
Mar 15, 2006 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: solarascreamer (Mar 14, 2006 6:52 pm)

"1. 1.01g lateral acceleration avg.
2. 71.8 through 600 ft. slalom course
3. 60-0 braking of 111.5 ft.
4. 0-60 acceleration of 5.8 sec.
Check those numbers, except for acceleration, the rest of those numbers are right up there w/Corvette Z06 and 911 Carrera S."

 
OUCH!!!!
 
You know, it really hurts to blurt hot coffee out of your nose....
 
It's really amazing that you took a Solara which, according to C&D's review did a 0-60 in 6.9secs, a 70-0 stop in 188ft, and pulled 0.77g on the skidpad, and turned it into a Corvette-slaying fire-breathing track monster with just a few simple TRD bolt-ons.......
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Re: Supra [solarascreamer] by mikegiller
Mar 15, 2006 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: solarascreamer (Mar 14, 2006 4:15 pm)

I am replying to your post right now before I have finished reading it, so, in advance, give me a break.
 
I wrote Toyota, and they had told me that they have no plans for the Supra - those liars!
 
However, they said that my thoughts have been "forwarded" to the product planners.
 
Toyota is like Area 51!
#217 of 298
2007/2008 Supra MKV by gjoseph
Mar 18, 2006 (10:29 pm)
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At Toyota Website they have this message
Question
  Is Toyota planning on bringing back the Supra in the future?
  
  Answer
  At this time, Toyota has no plans to bring back the Supra. We are however, constantly researching the market to identify popular vehicles.
 
Honestly, I think they're eventually going to bring a sports car back in the market hopefully it'll look like the one in the pic cuz I'll def get tht!!! It reminds me of the Benz SLK lol
#218 of 298
Supra by gjoseph
Mar 18, 2006 (10:30 pm)
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Maybe Toyota will bring back a sports car like the supra/celica but in a different name.

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