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#14 of 298 by chris65amg Feb 15, 2005 (3:31 pm)
True.... I think I'm the only person in the world who thinks that the new Mustang looks terrible....   Regardless of price, people would buy the Supra. I mean, people bought the last gen 'stang. And Celica.... which was.... err....   Also, a Toyota is a Toyota, so which would you feel more comfortable in? If they could get 300 out of a V-6, imagine what they could do with a hybrid V-8 if they extended themselves!!   ---Chris
#15 of 298 by wale_bate1 Feb 15, 2005 (4:32 pm)
Supra had a fairly short run as a bona fide lust-after car. By the time it was reaching for the top rung it was overpriced and overweight. A comparable product today would fit into the Lexus marketing pyramid, not the Toyota pyramid.   While the Mustang as a proposed pricing object may not appeal to everyone (I like it, but I think it's bigger than it needs to be), it's right on target for its segment. Could be Ford's only homer this year, especially considering how the 500 turned out (blecch)!
#16 of 298 by chris65amg Feb 15, 2005 (5:39 pm)
Yep. The 500 was a flop. I'm not holding out for a great Fusion, the Focus needs an upgrade, the Freestar.... blcuk. Ford's Mustang seems the only silver lining, but that's not really the point.   Since Toyota has cut all of its two door sporty models (OK, Solara) it needs at least one new one. It isn't for sales as much as it is for sales of other cars. It's the whole halo car mentality, and its worked for many other car makers. Drag people in to see a Supra, and they come out with a Camry. Trust me, it would work with me and my wife.... and we wouldn't end up with the Supra. Besides, we all know that Toyota doesn't have to overprice their cars. Look at the Scion tC.
#17 of 298 MAYBE by callmedrfill Feb 15, 2005 (7:17 pm)
Just maybe, that's why the Camry rose to promenance?        People in to ogle the Supra (1993-1998), and were sold the Camry while they were there?      1992-1995 is when Camry surged up the sales charts.      An excellent model, covered by an unbeatable Halo!      DrFill
#18 of 298 chris by nippononly Feb 15, 2005 (9:28 pm)
Solara? Sporty? Wow, that would not be my idea of sport.   It's a tough market for Supra to enter these days. You can't develop a car like that SOLELY to be a halo car.   You've got Mustang (crude handling, very heavy for a sport coupe, but a heck of a V-8), Eclipse (ditto except no V-8), 350Z (superb in many ways but a little heavy and large-feeling for a sport coupe) and RX-8 (small, lithe, loves to rev but little torque/power off the line).   Where does a hypothetical Supra fit in amongst that crew?On the high end, you are also bracketed by CrossFire and Corvette, and let's not forget the unloved GTO - what does that car's doomed existence tell Toyota?
#19 of 298 'Yota ain't makin' a Supra! by callmedrfill Feb 16, 2005 (7:05 am)
One, it's too late to the party. By 2008 this sports car kick will be over. And that's the earliest we'd see one.      Two, they WILL make this Lexus Supercar, and WON'T dumb down that car to make a $30k Johnny come lately!     DrFill
#20 of 298 by wale_bate1 Feb 16, 2005 (10:00 am)
"...let's not forget the unloved GTO - what does that car's doomed existence tell Toyota?"   That GM can have 7/8ths of the equation right and still screw up mightily on the last 0.125?   Agreed, I think, all the way around.   Frankly, if they do come out with an IS300 coupe this go 'round, it would be closest to the real Supra we knew (assuming there's a true performance package and a bumped up plant) of old. I'd peg that at about 40 grand maybe.   For a Supra on more Toyota terms (something the every-man can aspire to), I think I'd be looking at Scion for the future.   Just a guess.
#21 of 298 wale by nippononly Feb 16, 2005 (4:13 pm)
wait, why would an IS300 coupe come in at $40K if the sedan is going to start around $30K?   I'd go for an IS coupe.
#22 of 298 by wale_bate1 Feb 16, 2005 (4:44 pm)
No no, dear boy, that would be for a plus-rated engine and a real performance package on top of a mid-level IS coupe! That would make it something like the later, lustable Supras.   I don't think the IS line will top out at at $30K territory by any stretch. That'll be just the OPP, I'm betting...
#23 of 298 wale by nippononly Feb 16, 2005 (11:51 pm)
ah, now you have my wishful thinking imagining an IS430 coupe, with all the suspension and tire trimmings. That would easily be worth $40K and more.

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