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Re: Leasing a new model [qbrozen] by bmmiller
Nov 04, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 04, 2008 2:51 pm)

I don't believe it matters much. If the residual is set too high, then you get to cut and run at the end of the lease. If it is truly too low, then you can buy it and trade or sell at the end.
 
Excellent point. I never thought of it that way. I guess I can't really go wrong. I will have to post my info in the Flex lease discussion to see get people's opinions on the numbers.
Thanks
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Question regarding leases and buying at the end of them by cheeseplz
Mar 08, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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Ok so heres my question. I'm looking at buying a new altima and was wondering if it makes more sense to lease it (to have lower monthly payments) and then after 3 years just buy it outright? I'm not totally sure how leases work but to me it seems like a good way to pay less for a car upfront and then buy a depreciated car for less. If I was to buy it from the start I'd pay 2-3 times more a month wouldn't I? Yes after 5 years I'd own it but I also paid full price for a car that isn't worth that now. Like I said i'm not too sure what the advantages to leasing and then buying at the end of a lease are, most info on edmunds concerns leasing and then releasing at the end. PLEASE help me with any info you can.
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Re: Question regarding leases and buying at the end of them [cheeseplz] by golic
Mar 09, 2009 (4:20 am)
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Replying to: cheeseplz (Mar 08, 2009 7:08 pm)

The concept of a lease is to pay for the depreciation of the vehicle over the lease term, plus an interest rate. In a lease the interest rate is called a money factor, and if you take that factor and multiply by 2400 you will convert to an interest rate.
 
If you were to lease for 3 years, then finance for another 2-3 years, I am pretty sure you will expend more cash than if you were to purchase. You are right that there would be less front end cash - but in the long haul it may cost you far more.
 
To lease then finance often does not make good economic sense due to the following:
 
1. The residual value of the vehicle (the purchase price at lease end) is a crap shoot and rarely is less than FMV. I think the manufacturers overstate these slightly to keep lease payments attractive and claim their vehicles hold their value. So bottom line you may find out that your buy out price is $1,000 - $3,000++ greater than FMV at the end of the lease. On the other hand, if you are lucky and the car holds it value you can experience a nice windfall.
 
2. The interest rates on a new vehicle are preferential to that of a used vehicle. You will get a better interest rate financing a new vehicle for 60 months than you would get 3 years down the road financing a used vehicle. So the cost of money is better in the long run. I am not sure what is going on at Nissan, but lease rates these days are not that much more attractive than purchase rates for those with good credit.
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Re: Question regarding leases and buying at the end of them [cheeseplz] by qbrozen
Mar 09, 2009 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: cheeseplz (Mar 08, 2009 7:08 pm)

It all depends on the terms.
 
For example, 2 years ago my brother-in-law wanted a Mazda3. At the time, they were offering an outstanding 27-mo lease program. He was insistent that he wanted to purchase, but after running the numbers, I showed him that he would actually save money by leasing and buying it at the end. This was ONLY true because of the low money factor, however. If the manufacturer had been offering a low finance rate at the time, that probably would have been the way to go.
 
As it turns out, he doesn't want to keep the car, though, and will be turning it back in at the end of the lease. Had he purchased, he wouldn't have that choice now. So that's always something to consider.
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short answer by stickguy
Mar 12, 2009 (4:44 am)
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Lease/buy out is like making your payments now and down payment (a large one!) at the end. QB is right though that you get the option to walk away at lease end.
 
Flip side, it can be harder (more expensive) to get out of a lease early, and there are fees (origination, turn in) with a lease that you don't have with a buy.
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Need advise, lease vs. purchase by robertlong2
Apr 09, 2009 (1:35 am)
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My exsisting lease ends soon and i will not be purchasing the 2006 Mazda5. I liked it so much i want a 2009 (same model) The dealer made this offer on a 2009 Maxda 5 touring edition: The sticker price $21,640, He says his price is $20,563. and he will give to me $200. over that? = 20,763
My trade T/A (second car-2000 Mercury Gr Marq. 60,000 miles, good condition) He'll give $3,500. In either scenerio I pay $300. down. He'll also payoff exsisting lease approx. $400. and absorb 2000 extra mileage $0.15
 
LEASE: 3 years 45,000 mi $295. mo. residual $9,738
 
PURCHASE: w/ Mazda rebate of $500. = $16,763 60 mo 2.9% $313.mo
 
Which would you choose?
By the way, Mazda is pushing their Mazda3 now, do you think they'll have better deals on th Mazda5 in the near future?
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Re: Need advise, lease vs. purchase [robertlong2] by qbrozen
Apr 09, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: robertlong2 (Apr 09, 2009 1:35 am)

Out of those 2 scenarios, I would buy it without a doubt. $18 more per month to own? Its a no brainer, really.
 
Only thing I would do differently is sell the Grand Marquis privately. For an '00 with 60k miles, I'd imagine you could ask $5,995 and get $5k for it.
 
BTW, your purchase price at that rate for 60 months should be $300.48. I assume tax is driving you up to $313? Is the lease payment with or without tax?
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Re: Need advise, lease vs. purchase [robertlong2] by volvomax
Apr 10, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: robertlong2 (Apr 09, 2009 1:35 am)

Given the small difference in payment,you should buy the car.
 
Even if you want out in 3 yrs,you should be able to trade it in and be ok if you keep the miles right.
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Re: Need advise, lease vs. purchase [qbrozen] by robertlong2
Apr 10, 2009 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Apr 09, 2009 8:55 am)

Lease includes tax. Thanks for advise.
 
Bob
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lease or buy 2009 Prius?????? by cagn
Apr 27, 2009 (4:03 am)
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I’m thinking of leasing a 2009 Toyota Prius - $268/mo on a 3-year lease. Buyout stated up-front by Toyota $14,634; dealer says that because this car holds its value, the buyout cost will likely be less than its Blue Book value. Because the next generation of Prius is coming out soon, the dealer claims this is a really good deal being offered by Toyota to try and attract customers who otherwise might wait for the new models. Money factor – which I only sort of understand – is stated at 0.00017.
 
Same car, cost to purchase outright is $23,469.
 
Other part of this picture is that my personal finances are a little uncertain right now, but will be more stable in 2 or 3 years. That is, for the immediate future, the low monthly payments on a lease are attractive; 3 years from now (when I probably would purchase the vehicle rather than turn it in for another lease) the higher monthly payments are less likely to be the problem they are now.
 
Help! Some unbiased thoughts from someone experienced with leasing would be much appreciated!!!

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