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#150 of 640 Buy a $100K warranty yourself with the car and be covered
Jun 09, 2005 (10:35 am)
A quick search on a VERY popular "cars for sale" website shows this:
Total of 45 Honda Civic Hybrids with more than 50,000 miles and less than 80,000 miles for sale nationwide on that site.
Asking Prices are from $12,989 to $18,999. Many are "Honda Certified."
I think that speaks well of the longevity.
The battery worry issue is overdone. Toyota just recently surpassed 340,000 Prius cars sold worldwide and up until a few months ago had NEVER replaced a battery. The total battery failure information is almost impossible to find, but we can be sure it is VERY VERY LOW. (in fact I just found a page which says as of September 2004 Toyota had ZERO battery failures reported, and the 1997 Japanese Prius went on sale in late 1996.)
#151 of 640 Honda Hybrid transmission problem?
Jun 10, 2005 (9:43 am)
My hyrid is at 53K mile now and I have noticed the lurching when accelerating from stop. The dealer told me it was the start up clutch in the transmission that is failing. I was quoted $1600 to fix the problem. The service dept told me its not covered under warranty.
Did anyone in the forum get a similar diagnosis from the service dept? Isnt this covered under warranty?
#152 of 640 Honda Hybrid transmission solution
Jun 14, 2005 (10:47 am)
I also posted last week about the "lurching" problem when accelerating from a stop. I have the '03 Civic Hybrid automatic CVT and I am currently at 52K miles. I took a while, but they finally pulled the transmission code from the computer and it stated that my ERG valve was not working properly. Thankfully, this is covered under the emissions warranty, so I will only have to pay $75 for the labor. I hope this solves my problem for good. I would make sure you are at a Honda-specific shop and I would ask them to run the diagnostic codes while they have Honda techs on the phone. My service guy said that most places haven't been trained on this particular transmission yet, b/c they haven't had anything go wrong with them yet. I was the first case at my shop. If they can't at least run the codes for you, then I would find a different shop. Hope this helps!
#153 of 640 Re: Honda Hybrid transmission solution [hysand]
Jun 14, 2005 (2:43 pm)
" Thankfully, this is covered under the emissions warranty, so I will only have to pay $75 for the labor"
Huh? If an item is covered by warranty, it should include parts and labor...
#154 of 640 Re: Honda Hybrid transmission solution (lurching issue)
Jun 15, 2005 (4:15 pm)
Thank you for the information. I intend to take that to the dealer next week and will report back in case anyone else still has this problem. Much appreciated!
#155 of 640 Re: Honda Hybrid transmission solution [stevedebi]
Jun 16, 2005 (8:42 am)
From what I can tell (from the owner's manual and talking to service dept), the ERG valve is no longer covered after the 3yr/36,000 period. However, my guess is that Honda has issued a technical service bulletin about this problem and they are helping with costs. I'm not sure that there is a TSB out on this particular subject, although I did find a tsb issued in Jan '05. You have to pay to find out what the TSB is about, and that's not an add'l cost I'm willing to pay, if it's not about my particular issue. I hope that clarifies the 'warranty' issue, and thanks for asking b/c I was able to learn about TSBs in the process of my research.
#156 of 640 Re: Honda Hybrid transmission solution [hysand]
Jun 21, 2005 (4:05 pm)
I have an '04 CivicHybrid (55k) with the exact opposite issue. I get lurching, or stuttering when accelerating in high gear, at higher speeds. If I ease of the peddle it stops. It's very noticable, and can see the changes in RPMs on the tach. I've tried to re-create it for the Dealer, but I can't go fast enough long enough, since they're not near an Interstate. They had me disconnect the EGR valve to see if this would cause it to stop, but this made no difference. I've had this for about 15k so far.
#157 of 640 Re: Honda Hybrid transmission solution [igandalf2]
Jun 21, 2005 (4:15 pm)
Also, my mpg's have fallen from 45 to 43.5. Not a lot, but clearly is not running as efficiently.
#158 of 640 Re: lurching problem upon accelerating [hysand]
Jun 22, 2005 (12:58 am)
Interesting. I have the same problem, but at only 20,000 miles on the same model. Originally I and the shop thought it was the result of a tank of the bad ConocoPhilips gas that circulated on the west coast about a month ago. After the "three stage program": cleaning the injectors, cleaning injectors and flushing the fuel lines, and finally replacing the injectors, the problem persists. They even thought that it might be a problem with the CV transmission and flushed it three times and replaced it with fresh fluid. Yet the problem persists. It occurs as others have described it, at low speed and RPM (about 5-10MPH and 1500-1700RPM) with slight throttle pressure and is a "lurching" sensation. By shifting to "2" and increasing RPM it goes away, or by simply accelerating it also goes away. Also notice that when the engine is not warm the problem is not there. The dealership is as frustrated as I am, and will be more so when I take it in again. Are any of you common sufferers located on the west coast and by chance pumped in a tank or two of ConocoPhilips gas (also sold at 76 stations)?
#159 of 640 Re: gas milage [stress27295]
Jun 22, 2005 (1:14 am)
Our 03 was the same. At around 2000 miles you should see improvement, perhaps due to engine breakin (and/or better driving habits). I should point out that at 20,000 miles I can get around 55 MPG (at 65-70 MPH) on the flatter highway trips, however when my daughter drives around town it seems to average about 38 MPG, so terrain and "heavy foot syndrome" all contribute to the overall fuel economy.