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Toyota Prius, Honda Accord, Lexus RX 400h, Honda Insight, Honda Civic, Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan, SUV
#61 of 723 Re: My Prius at 107k [p3oz]
Dec 23, 2004 (10:11 pm)
The original Bridgestone RE92 can be had from Tire Rack for about $55 ea. Make sure to get the XL rated ones. However, the original Bridgestones are generally hated by most "classic" Prius owners for their short lifespan and mediocre handling.
As for your steering problem, there was a recall on the electric power steering rack on many early Priuses. Your dealer should check your VIN and see if the rack was replaced under the recall. Some of us also received a warranty extension note on the steering rack removing the mileage limitation.
My experience as an owner of a 2002 Prius is that Toyota has done an excellent job standing behind the model and have gone out of their way to ensure a positive experience for the owner. I think this is because they realized early on that the Prius buyer may not be a customer who has dealt with Toyota in the past and they wanted to make a good first impression...
#62 of 723 Re: Re Prius or Honda owners suffer from any of this ? [rfruth]
Dec 24, 2004 (9:25 am)
"Have you have these problems?"
I own a Honda Insight.
NO. 1) recessed or "concealed" windshield wipers that freeze and can't be freed because the hood is in the way
NO. 2) pantograph windshield wipers that can't be lifted away from the glass
NO. 3) "switchblade" keys that eventually break and cost over $100 to replace
NO. 4) cupholders that only hold small drinks
NO. 5) cupholders that let cups tip easily
NO(no cd). 6) locking glovebox right below CD changer that doesn't lock
YES. 7) plastic shields and covers in the engine compartment that don't protect anything
YES. 9) oil filter mounting positions that dribble oil all over the place when changing filters
NO. 10) tiny print on switches, knobs, and levers
NO. 11) spare tire wells that won't fit full-size spares
NO. 12) power antennas
NO. 13) wheels held on by bolts instead of studs and nuts
NO. 14) 12v power outlets that you have to open an ashtray to access
Hope that satisfies you.
May 16, 2005 (11:25 am)
Are you considering buying a Prius but turned off by the idea of the software glitches reported at http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef64fbc/0? If you are reconsidering your place on the waiting list or other efforts to shop for a Prius, and are willing to share your perspective with a journalist, please respond to jfallonedmunds.com no later than Friday, May 20, 2005 with your daytime contact information and city/state of residence.
Thanks for your consideration,
#66 of 723 NY TImes debunks Toyota SUV hybrids
Aug 07, 2005 (8:14 pm)
Last Friday I was about a week away from committing to one dealer or another to get a Highlander Hybrid. Then a friend called me from his vacation to intervene, because he had just read a couple of NY Times articles saying that both the Lexus and Highlander Hybrids get only a couple of miles per gallon more than their gas-only forebearers (both vehicles in the low- to mid-20s-mpg [considerably less than the EPA projections] ), and thus are not worth spending all that extra $ for. I found the Lexus article online, but apparently the Highlander one was in print only, which I have yet to see.
So: do you know anything about this? Is it true that the Highlander Hybrid gets scarcely better mileage than the gas-only model? If so, do you think that makes it not worth getting? Owners, what are your experiences?
#67 of 723 Re: NY TImes debunks Toyota SUV hybrids [downthehighway]
Aug 07, 2005 (8:29 pm)
Be sure and visit the hybrid Highlander thread. You will find a mixed bag on mileage. The only site I know of that keeps track of hybrid mileage has an average of 25 MPG combined. 11 owners are reporting from 19 to 29 MPG.
Welcome to the Forum
#68 of 723 Re: NY TImes debunks Toyota SUV hybrids [downthehighway]
Aug 08, 2005 (2:17 am)
Edmunds is getting over 27 mpg with their long term Lexus. Overall you're going to probably get 6-8 MPG BETTER MPG. You have to weigh that against the price difference. If you are able to get a substantial price discount on the hybrid, then the purchase is more compelling. If you have to pay list, then you have to debate whether you want to pay the extra $$$.
#69 of 723 Re: NY TImes debunks Toyota SUV hybrids [falconone]
Aug 09, 2005 (5:21 am)
The kicker is for around 30 MPG you do pay a big premium, as none of the dealers I know of are discounting from MSRP. When you look at the top of the line Limted at $42K and the Lexus at $53K there are other makes available that cost much less, are proven in the long term and will get you good fuel mileage without the big prices tag or unknowns with a hybrid.
#70 of 723 Re: NY TImes debunks Toyota SUV hybrids [bob259]
Aug 09, 2005 (5:58 am)
I own a Prius and have 32,000 trouble free miles. There are many happy hybrid owners. CR claims a 94% satisfaction rate. The hybrid SUVs are another story. I admit it's hard to justify the premium for marginal gains. If the Prius didn't exist I'd be driving an Acura TSX.