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I still don't think I'd buy a hybrid. The cost is just too high for the amount of gas you might save if you get the EPA mileage they are rated at. The Prius is probably the only hybrid I'd consider and only if I can get past the Toyota dealer gouging. I will not pay 25-26K for a car with an MSRP of less than 22K. The only other hybrids I know of...the Civic Hybrid and the Accord Hybrid are regular cars made into hybrids. The problem is trunk space. They use a lot of it for the battery packs and I need room to fit a racing bicycle in the trunk. If they could find a better place to put their battery packs I might consider the Civic. The Accord is just too expensive although the left over trunk space is tight but acceptable. It saves a lot of gas over the regular Accord V6 and is the most powerful Honda car available. But it's 30K! The problem is, if I can afford to buy a car for 30K then paying for gas is probably not a problem either. I remember when the cars with the best fuel economy were also the cheapest. I sometimes think this hybrid thing is a marketing ploy to get people to pay a lot of money for a car that gets marginally better economy than your average economy car. As I mentioned before, Honda's Civic VX had a 92 horsepower engine that gave 48 hwy/55 city in an engine with a large displacement than the one currently used on the new Civic Hybrid. I think if Honda worked with that engine to boost power a little and improve economy (the VX is a 1991 design), they could get rid of the heavy battery pack and have a car with economy nearly as good or better than their hybrid and at a much lower cost. Some of the fuel economy figures I'm seeing here are worse or not much better than what I used to get in my old 4-door Civic which had an engine that wasn't as efficient as the VX. And my old Civic was only $12000 in 1992. |
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Replying to: falconone (Oct 24, 2005 6:47 pm) I pointed to 2 posts, 1 about a Prius with a repair bill of $15,000, the other a Prius which burst into flames and was totalled. If u want to stay in denial and laugh like a hyena, that's your business. Reading further about the Prius, I see you've been waiting for yours since May or June. Ooooh what a feeling, eh? |
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Replying to: yesroh (Oct 24, 2005 6:49 pm) |
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Replying to: heyjewel (Oct 24, 2005 6:52 pm) I had a friend who had a Civic with 4000 miles on it and one day every weld in the entire car failed at the same time. He found himself riding the front wheel like a unicycle at 45 miles an hour, holding the steering wheel and rolling down a hill into an intersection. Luck was on his side that day. |
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Replying to: heyjewel (Oct 24, 2005 6:52 pm) 
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Replying to: heyjewel (Oct 24, 2005 6:52 pm)
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Replying to: yesroh (Oct 24, 2005 6:10 pm)
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Replying to: yesroh (Oct 24, 2005 6:49 pm) your bike will fit in the Prius.
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Replying to: heyjewel (Oct 24, 2005 5:21 pm) It was a $15,000 tab with the car out of warrenty and Toyota picked up the full bill. The fire thing was from a Poster who to my knowledge only posted twice and it was the exact same message both times??....He did say he liked the car There is little doubt it is fully covered under warrenty unless the fire was arson but we have no way of knowing....the car was sitting in a parking lot at the time it caught fire. |
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Replying to: michael_mattox (Oct 24, 2005 8:26 pm) It was a $15,000 tab with the car out of warrenty and Toyota picked up the full bill." The fact that it was a 3 or 4 year old Prius makes it a moot point in your mind? Here's a car that, within 4 years of brand new, developed operational problems so severe that the repair bill was darn close to the retail price of the car when new. Toyota had no choice but to pick up the bill, you know that. PR and the Pusher Man, that's what it is. What will happen when tens or hundreds of thousands of 4 or 5 yr old Prius are out there and some develop $20000 repair bills? When does Toyota stop pickin up the tab? With your Prius? "The fire thing was from a Poster who to my knowledge only posted twice and it was the exact same message both times??....He did say he liked the car " So your point is ... ? His car burnt up. I would bet that he didn't replace a car that spontaneously combusted on him with another Prius. So little reason to come back and post more. You're obviously saying maybe he's a shill or something? Can't argue with that.
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