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358 messages,  Last post on Jul 25, 2009 at 10:27 AM

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#351 of 358 Re: mannacio [mannacio] by mdchachi

Aug 06, 2007 (6:03 pm)

Replying to: mannacio (Jul 31, 2007 4:53 pm)
> When auto manufacturers post "supported phones" on their website they are, in my opinion, in violation of their agreement with the Bluetooth Organization.
 
What is your reasoning here? Many phones are not properly compliant with Bluetooth standards or have bugs in their software. If they don't work, they don't work. Also, there are different versions of Bluetooth and even the standard itself has various gray areas that leads to implementation differences.
 
It's not "hostile" to users of Bluetooth phones. It's trying to deal with the real world. Some phones work and some phones don't.
 
Now, your particular problem of the whole system freezing up is not a Bluetooth issue. A non-supported phone no matter what it does should not cause your entire system to freeze up. That's a software quality issue.

#352 of 358 Re: mannacio [mannacio] by kpanek

Jan 25, 2008 (1:38 am)

Replying to: mannacio (Jul 31, 2007 4:53 pm)
Hello Mannacio. I'd like to ask you for help.
Have the same experience with Mercedes-Benz. We bought 3 luxury SUVs from them. They list "recommended phones" for their "Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth(R) (SAP) Telephone Module, Version 2" in official materials for the Czech Republic: 13 of 20 are NOKIAs, remaining 7 models just to cover-up Mercedes' NOKIA preference as those are out of reality: "VERTU" not sold at all in CZE afaik and, "SIEMENS" which is terminated brand as everybody in the biz knows.
Mercedes representatives end up with indistinct statements or irrelevant excuses and I suspect them that they've explicitly (per-customer) blocked SONY ERICSSONs specificaly (car I've tested doesn't operate with any high-end SE model, including Z610i, P990i, etc.)
It is likely that Mercedes is manipulating its customers and limits their "Bluetooth(R)" support artificially.
I've found the form before your article and sent complaint there. But I wonder if you have identified particular article in Bluetooth member agreements / materials ? Do you have some further tips or experience?
I'm attaching corresponding Mercedes-Benz material in English: http://resource.empyreum.net/temporary/Cradles_1207_en.pdf
I'm about to become an activist in this as well Any message from you to my e-mail karel.panek vortex empyreum.com will be appreciated!
Thanks,
Karel

#353 of 358 Re: mannacio [mdchachi] by kpanek

Jan 25, 2008 (1:48 am)

Replying to: mdchachi (Aug 06, 2007 6:03 pm)
mdchachi, your opinion is incorrect. The problem stands in the fact, that vehicle manufacturer artificially limits its "Bluetooth(R)" support not due to technology (e. g. bluetooth device type or version), but based on its specific mobile phone brand preference. This could imply great harm to Bluetooth(R) brand itself according to my opinion. In my way of thinking such behavior of car manufacturer is manipulative, inadequate, unacceptable and perhaps illegal.

#354 of 358 Re: mannacio [kpanek] by mdchachi

Jan 29, 2008 (11:23 am)

Replying to: kpanek (Jan 25, 2008 1:48 am)
You are stating conjecture, not fact. Do you have any evidence to support your conjectures?

#355 of 358 Press Request by KarenS HOST

Sep 30, 2008 (11:39 am)

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#356 of 358 Bluetooth Car kits by rajatarora

Dec 26, 2008 (7:29 pm)

Anyone know a lot about Bluetooth Car kits. I am looking to compare between BlueConnect and Parrot. Are these any good ? Is there anything better ?
 
Thanks.

#357 of 358 Dealer must disable engine by nortsr1

Jul 25, 2009 (5:18 am)

I just read that the dealership must drain the oil of the CFC and pour some type of silicone type fluid into same into the engine and RUN same for at least xxx minutes to fully disable the engine (which the article states will cost the dealership approx. $30.00).

#358 of 358 Re: Dealer must disable engine [nortsr1] by claires HOST

Jul 25, 2009 (10:27 am)

Replying to: nortsr1 (Jul 25, 2009 5:18 am)
Not sure, but you might be looking for this discussion: Cash for Clunkers: Good or Bad Idea?

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