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#25108 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [fintail] by andre1969

Feb 12, 2013 (5:43 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 12, 2013 3:23 pm)
Shouldn't that Torino Elite have a 460, if it's original? I have to admit, I kinda like it, but that dual exhaust doesn't look too professional!
 
And yeah, I agree, that white on white '74 LTD is a pretty nice car. Definitely the pick of the bunch. I don't think too many of those survived. Seems like they rusted worse than their GM equivalents. Or even their unitized Mopar competition.
 
That Comet actually gives me a slight headache looking at it. Shows just what a torture chamber some compacts could be back in those days.

#25109 of 25623 Re: Project Car for Fintail [lemko] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Feb 13, 2013 (7:55 am)

Replying to: lemko (Feb 12, 2013 11:39 am)
Collectors much prefer the SWB MB 600 to the Pullman. I'd call this one a parts car, given that even simple things like water pump could set you back big bucks
 
Someone driving the Pullman around all by himself looks ridiculous.

#25110 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [andre1969] by fintail

Feb 13, 2013 (8:11 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 12, 2013 5:43 pm)
I'd have thought the biggest stock engine in an Elite would be a 351 or maybe a 400. Was a 460 used on that midsized (relatively) platform?
 
The dashboard of that Comet is pretty unpleasant, I never liked the rear end of those either.

#25111 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [fintail] by andre1969

Feb 13, 2013 (8:38 am)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 13, 2013 8:11 am)
I'd have thought the biggest stock engine in an Elite would be a 351 or maybe a 400. Was a 460 used on that midsized (relatively) platform?
 
Yep, even in '76 you could get a 460 as an option on the Elite. The 351 was actually the standard engine! And the 400 was a mid-range option.
 
At some point, I think even in the lesser Torino models, a 351 was made standard, because the 6-cyl and even the 302 engines just weren't up to the task. That must have made them a hard sell to fuel conscious buyers.
 
I think GM and Chrysler started phasing the bigger engines out of their cars after 1975. For instance, in the 1976 Chevelle/Malibu and Monte Carlo brochures, they list a 175 hp 400 V-8 as the top engine. By that time, I guess the 454 was reserved for Impala/Caprice duty?
 
I know you could still get a 455 in a LeMans or Grand Prix in '76, and they actually seem somewhat common in the Grand Prix.
 
For '77, the biggest engine you could get in a Malibu/Monte was a 350, ditto the Century/Regal. The Cutlass could be had with a 403, and the LeMans/Grand Prix could be ordered with a Pontiac 400 (Olds 403 in CA). That same year, Ford quit offering the 460 in midsized cars, but still offered the 400 in the LTD-II/Cougar/T-bird.
 
I've heard that Chrysler still offered the 440 in midsized cars right up through 1978, but I think in those last couple years, it might have been a copcar-only engine.

#25112 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [andre1969] by texases

Feb 13, 2013 (8:36 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 13, 2013 8:38 am)
"At some point, I think even in the lesser Torino models, a 351 was made standard, because the 6-cyl and even the 302 engines just weren't up to the task. That must have made them a hard sell to fuel conscious buyers. "
 
According to the ad, those folks would get the 429, right?

#25113 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [omarman] by xwesx

Feb 13, 2013 (10:59 am)

Replying to: omarman (Feb 12, 2013 3:15 pm)
I like that Ford van. I think that's the first long body I've seen of that generation in well over a decade. Far and away, the vast majority of the survivors are short bodies.
 
Of course, I have my own van that I need to put right before I'd seriously consider anything else, but it's still fun to look.

#25114 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [texases] by omarman

Feb 13, 2013 (11:09 am)

Replying to: texases (Feb 13, 2013 8:36 am)
I went back to the seller's CL ad and it looks like it's been edited to now state: "I have a black 75 Ford elite same line as torino but not to many of these made ... getts not to bad mpg" No more mention of engine size.
 
I don't remember Ford offering the 429 in passenger cars after 1974.

#25115 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [xwesx] by omarman

Feb 13, 2013 (12:17 pm)

Replying to: xwesx (Feb 13, 2013 10:59 am)
That's the longer Econoline Supervan which Ford started making in '65. I think they made a camper version of this too.

#25116 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [omarman] by xwesx

Feb 13, 2013 (12:27 pm)

Replying to: omarman (Feb 13, 2013 12:17 pm)
I didn't realize the called it "Econoline" prior to the generation change in '69. My '69 has a nameplate on the back that says "Supervan," and it cracks people up when they see it.
 
Of course, the whole van cracks them up initially, so perhaps they're already in a jovial mood when they get to looking at that detail.

#25117 of 25623 Re: CL deals today [andre1969] by omarman

Feb 13, 2013 (12:30 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 12, 2013 5:43 pm)
Funny thing is that I can always do a quick CL search of rust belt cities (Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh, NY/NJ metro) and find running, licensed 70s LTDs for sale. Although sometimes the seller's ad seems like a joke or one big typo. You know it's going to be fun when something is listed as "almost immaculate"

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