Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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#25036 of 25654 Re: Is this worth restoring? [fintail] by boomchek

Feb 05, 2013 (1:09 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 05, 2013 1:04 pm)
That's usually the norm at dealerships. especially for older models that dealership will wholesale anyways.
 
I have a friend that works at the local MB dealer and they don't keep any trade ins other than late model MB's. All off makes go to the auction (or get bought by employees). Sometimes you can come across at cherry low mileage older cars that were well maintained but just won't do well as retail pieces on the lot due to their age.

#25037 of 25654 Re: Is this worth restoring? [boomchek] by fintail

Feb 05, 2013 (1:16 pm)

Replying to: boomchek (Feb 05, 2013 1:09 pm)
My E55 is at that point - although it is low mileage and fairly pristine, it is past the magical 10 year old mark now, and values are low. One reason I've had little desire to part ways - the car looks and feels far more expensive than it is, and I couldn't replace it with anything nearly as nice for the money. Sometimes I get the idea of getting a newer car - but can't justify it just yet. Although it is nice to know that someone would want it when I am ready to sell.

#25038 of 25654 Re: Is this worth restoring? [fintail] by michaell

Feb 05, 2013 (1:19 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 05, 2013 1:04 pm)
Regarding the BMWs, no 320i in the US -
 
It's coming .. I configured one on BMW's website and got to $40K without breaking a sweat. Really not that much less expensive than a 328i - except it will have 60 less HP.

#25039 of 25654 Re: Is this worth restoring? [michaell] by fintail

Feb 05, 2013 (1:22 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Feb 05, 2013 1:19 pm)
I stand corrected - I see it on the site too. I didn't know it was actually coming. I see there's a 4K base price difference, which isn't a fortune for 60hp and probably some better other bits.
 
Now if we could just get a C diesel.

#25040 of 25654 Re: Is this worth restoring? [michaell] by boomchek

Feb 05, 2013 (1:23 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Feb 05, 2013 1:19 pm)
It's coming .. I configured one on BMW's website and got to $40K without breaking a sweat. Really not that much less expensive than a 328i - except it will have 60 less HP.
 
It's only worth it if you want the base base model and don't load it up with anything. Sort of like the base Porsche Cayenne, I remember it being in the low $60k range here a few years ago but you got no sunroof, no bluetooth, tiny wheels, no power seats, pretty much nothing other than the Porsche badge and your power windows, locks, mirrors, and a/c. If you'd add up all the goodies like Nav, sunroof, better stereo, bluetooth, nicer wheels, and such you'd be sitting at about $20-$30k more.
 
On the other hand I doubt that dealers carry many of the base stripper models as the lease ads are usually ran nationally from BMW Canada.

#25042 of 25654 Re: . [fintail] by hpmctorque

Feb 06, 2013 (1:36 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 06, 2013 1:00 pm)
I saw a white 2-door K-car just last week, driven by a young woman. Hadn't seen one like it on well over a year.
 
I know someone who owns a '88 Aries America. He's the original owner and it's been an extra car for several years now. He's very handy, and does all repairs and maintenance himself. In its ~165,000 miles it's needed a lot of repairs, including a new head gasket. The automatic transmission is original, though.

#25043 of 25654 Re: . [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Feb 06, 2013 (1:38 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 06, 2013 1:00 pm)
31 mpg on an '86 Nissan 6 cylinder? Ahem........
 
Saab Two-Stroke: I'd love to have that car, but not for that price.

#25044 of 25654 Re: . [fintail] by texases

Feb 06, 2013 (2:14 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 06, 2013 1:00 pm)
Odd wheels on that Mk V. And anyone know what that oil-filter looking thing sticking out the side of the air cleaner on the Mk V does?

#25045 of 25654 Re: . [hpmctorque] by fintail

Feb 06, 2013 (2:58 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Feb 06, 2013 1:36 pm)
I think some of those old econocars put out so little torque, the transmissions would survive with just a little maintenance. The old Tempo in my family made it to 190K when sold - and I have no memory of it even receiving a transmission service, although it must have, maybe.
 
Regarding the Mk V engine part - some malaisey thing to make a 460 put out under 200hp, no doubt. The wheels, 90s style "custom" stuff.
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