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#24379 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

May 04, 2012 (2:15 pm)

Replying to: lemmer (May 04, 2012 2:09 pm)
More like 12 mpg if he's lucky and 10 mpg if he's not.

#24380 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer

May 04, 2012 (2:37 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 04, 2012 2:15 pm)
The original carb was replaced with a Holley 4 barrel. I don't know if that helps or hurts. I wasn't impressed with the cruise shift linkage and a couple vacuum hoses dangling unattached next to the carb.

#24381 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

May 04, 2012 (2:55 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 04, 2012 2:15 pm)
Ironically, that's what the current EPA estimates on an '89 Grand Wagoneer are...10 city/12 highway. The original window sticker was 11/13, according to the EPA.
 
Were they still using the old AMC 5.9 V-8 by that time, or had Jeep started using the Mopar 5.9? My uncle had a 1976 Jeep pickup with the AMC 5.9 and a 4-speed stick. Never drove it enough to find out what kind of fuel economy it got, but I imagine it was pretty bad.

#24382 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [andre1969] by toomanyfumes

May 05, 2012 (8:10 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (May 04, 2012 2:55 pm)
When I was a teenager, my friend's dad had a Jeep Cherokee with the 360 V-8 and full-time four wheel drive. I think it was a '76. It was a hog, I remember it getting around 10MPG.

#24383 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [toomanyfumes] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

May 06, 2012 (8:46 am)

Replying to: toomanyfumes (May 05, 2012 8:10 pm)
yep they're pretty brutal on gas--but kinda fun to drive around-quite deluxe in an 80s kind of way.
 
If your friend is claiming 17 mpg, we can always jump him and shoot him up with truth serum and get to the facts.

#24384 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [andre1969] by explorerx4

May 06, 2012 (9:41 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (May 04, 2012 2:55 pm)
Years ago, a friend of mine bought a Grand Wagoneer and another for parts.
He didn't realize until deep into and engine swap that 1 was AMC and the other Chrysler.
Changed his life forever.

#24385 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer

May 07, 2012 (6:40 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 06, 2012 8:46 am)
He is a known "story teller" so I let it pass.
 
The outside of it seems so '70s to me, but the inside is '80s (and not in a good way).

#24386 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [Mr_Shiftright] by lemko

May 07, 2012 (6:55 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 04, 2012 1:28 pm)
There's an article in the current edition of Collectible Automobile about the 1969-75 International Travelall. It was also a gas hog. I think it got 9 MPG Highway!

#24387 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [lemko] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

May 07, 2012 (11:04 am)

Replying to: lemko (May 07, 2012 6:55 am)
Well out where I live at $4.50 a gallon, you wouldn't be doing too much frivolous driving in your "collectible" rig at 9 mpg. That's .50 cents a mile! Ouch!

#24388 of 25635 Re: Grand Wagoneer [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer

May 07, 2012 (1:49 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 07, 2012 11:04 am)
My Wagoneer friend still has delusions of having it be his daily driver. His commute is around 15 miles one way of heavy traffic in a very hilly area. My wife has almost the same commute and gets 15-16 MPG in a Honda Pilot. At least the Pilot starts every day. The Wagoneer failed that test on the second day of my friend's ownership.
 
As an aside, over the weekend, we added an '05 Prius for my wife to have purely as a commuter car.

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