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#24375 of 25732 Re: Jaw dropper [andre1969] by texases

May 04, 2012 (11:14 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (May 04, 2012 10:40 am)
Andre, I wondered about that 289, too. Turns out you could get the 4 bbl 289 in the 'early 65' Mustangs, the 260 was only a 2bbl. The 289 was either a 4 bbl (not quite the same as the 'A' code 4 bbl) or the 'K' code ("Hi-Po") 289.

#24376 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [lemmer] by au1994

May 04, 2012 (11:43 am)

Replying to: lemmer (May 04, 2012 11:00 am)
This wil be fun to follow. Those things have a cult following for sure. There is even an outfit in Houston that "refurbs" them and sells them for about 30k!

#24377 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [lemmer] by MrShift@Edmunds HOST

May 04, 2012 (1:28 pm)

Replying to: lemmer (May 04, 2012 11:00 am)
They are becoming a minor cult vehicle. Hope he lives near a gas station though. He's in for a shock. I'd recommended putting black tape over the gas gauge, at least in the beginning.

#24378 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer

May 04, 2012 (2:09 pm)

Replying to: MrShift@Edmunds (May 04, 2012 1:28 pm)
He claimed he got 17 MPG on his first tank. I smiled but left him in fantasyland.

#24379 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [lemmer] by MrShift@Edmunds HOST

May 04, 2012 (2:15 pm)

Replying to: lemmer (May 04, 2012 2:09 pm)
More like 12 mpg if he's lucky and 10 mpg if he's not.

#24380 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer

May 04, 2012 (2:37 pm)

Replying to: MrShift@Edmunds (May 04, 2012 2:15 pm)
The original carb was replaced with a Holley 4 barrel. I don't know if that helps or hurts. I wasn't impressed with the cruise shift linkage and a couple vacuum hoses dangling unattached next to the carb.

#24381 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

May 04, 2012 (2:55 pm)

Replying to: MrShift@Edmunds (May 04, 2012 2:15 pm)
Ironically, that's what the current EPA estimates on an '89 Grand Wagoneer are...10 city/12 highway. The original window sticker was 11/13, according to the EPA.
 
Were they still using the old AMC 5.9 V-8 by that time, or had Jeep started using the Mopar 5.9? My uncle had a 1976 Jeep pickup with the AMC 5.9 and a 4-speed stick. Never drove it enough to find out what kind of fuel economy it got, but I imagine it was pretty bad.

#24382 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [andre1969] by toomanyfumes

May 05, 2012 (8:10 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (May 04, 2012 2:55 pm)
When I was a teenager, my friend's dad had a Jeep Cherokee with the 360 V-8 and full-time four wheel drive. I think it was a '76. It was a hog, I remember it getting around 10MPG.

#24383 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [toomanyfumes] by MrShift@Edmunds HOST

May 06, 2012 (8:46 am)

Replying to: toomanyfumes (May 05, 2012 8:10 pm)
yep they're pretty brutal on gas--but kinda fun to drive around-quite deluxe in an 80s kind of way.
 
If your friend is claiming 17 mpg, we can always jump him and shoot him up with truth serum and get to the facts.

#24384 of 25732 Re: Grand Wagoneer [andre1969] by explorerx4

May 06, 2012 (9:41 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (May 04, 2012 2:55 pm)
Years ago, a friend of mine bought a Grand Wagoneer and another for parts.
He didn't realize until deep into and engine swap that 1 was AMC and the other Chrysler.
Changed his life forever.
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