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Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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This Monte Carlo... by andre1969
Nov 15, 2004 (8:51 am)
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is actually somewhat the reverse of a car I looked at a few months ago. That car was a 1980 Chrysler Cordoba LS. It had a drivetrain that had been hopped up pretty nicely...318 out of a '75 Dart, with the lean burn swapped out, a Torqueflite 727, and a rear-end with Suregrip out of a '69 or '70 Charger. This sucker sounded beautiful when you fired it up. Unfortunately, the body was rusting pretty badly, and these things are unitized, which makes it worse. The soft plastic panels that finished off the rear of the car were shot, and the front-end, which was somewhat reminiscent of Edura, was distorted. The interior also needed work. And the brakes were shot. But DAMN that engine sounded nice!
 
Still, I think I'd rather have a nice, solid body that I could drop an engine into (and Chevy 350's are a dime a dozen) than a nice drivetrain that's in a body that might be falling apart in a few years.
 
I wonder how much he'd sell the whole thing for, with the engine/tranny? Only Monte SS reference point I've had lately was one that's been for sale at a lot up the street from me, for awhile now. Here's a pic of it: http://www.melvinmotors.com/images/vehicles/monte87_burg.JPG
I forgot what they had been wanting for it (I posted it awhile back) but they're down to $5750 now.
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by stickguy
Nov 15, 2004 (9:09 am)
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I vote yes on the SS, although I agree that the price is a bit high, assuming that the body and interior is as nice as presented.
 
For a project, I would be dropping in a fresh/better/different motor anyway, and body work can get expensive. Why pay for a drivetrain you don't want, if it is getting yanked anyway (assuming it would be crap to start with).
 
I'm not ready yet for a resto project 9and it wouldn't be one of these), but I when I am, I will definitely start with the soundest platform I can, not a cheesey rust bucket.
 
Actually, I want Overhaulin to come get my car, although the fact that I am in NJ and don't have a bomber to take works against me.
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by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 15, 2004 (9:21 am)
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Okay so it's 2 to 2, Andre apparently abstaining.
 
Let's get ONE MORE vote and then go on to another perhaps from someone else.
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I don't practice... by andre1969
Nov 15, 2004 (9:29 am)
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...abstinence! I thought you already had me down as a SAVE, Shifty?
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by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 15, 2004 (9:33 am)
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Oh, sorreeeeeee...you just aren't assertive enough in these votes, Andre. I need you to slam your fist on the table here like you "mean it"
 
Okay, so Andre votes SAVE and we'll call it like that.
 
Anyone have an interesting ad, with photos and a price, or if not, I'll post another.
 
PS: I think that Monte is a loser at that price, but oh, well.
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Where's a good place to go... by andre1969
Nov 15, 2004 (9:39 am)
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for car ads? I mainly look at eBay, but how would you determine an asking price for an auction item?
#27 of 19417
Monte Carlo by andys120
Nov 15, 2004 (10:55 am)
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Junk it! They were mediocre cars with mediocre powertrains and blah styling.
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Re: Where's a good place to go... [andre1969] by 1racefan
Nov 15, 2004 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 15, 2004 9:39 am)

One neat site is carsinbarns.com, but I haven't figured out how to just post a link for an individual car. Most links bring up a whole page of cars.
#29 of 19417
well, that Monte was... by ghulet
Nov 15, 2004 (11:37 am)
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...on Craigslist.com, which I just discovered, thanks to someone here (perhaps Nippononly?). In any case, lots of fun, another e-timewaster for me. Oh, and it has real estate, job listings, and some fairly explicit personal ads, some with photos even. 'Nuff said.
 
I've found that craigslist is an especially good clearing house (in Chicago, anyway) for 'distress sale'-type cars. Y'know, broke kids with cars they've had since college, now sitting on the streets of Chicago, in danger of being towed away because they blew a head gasket or dropped a tranny and the owners can't afford to get them fixed. Lots of potentially decent $250 fixer-uppers. Of course, with these types of cars and owners, you often don't know what is REALLY wrong with the cars, or what's been neglected, or what's wrong in addition to what the owner discloses, so it's not unlikely you may be stuck with a $200 car that needs $2500 in repairs, only to be worth $1500 in the end.
 
Back on topic. At $2500, it's very hard for me to get excited about a 20 year-old Monte clad in primer with no drivetrain. I love the endless 'all it needs is a coat of paint' refrains from those trying to sell what are basically rolling scrapheaps. The interior is not perfect, it's got a trunk full of parts, no factory wheels, no decals and no right side mirror, from what I can tell from four photos. Even if restored properly (at which point the new owner would be hopelessly buried), it would never be anything more than a Frankenstein. Scuh-RAP it.
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I vote for SAVE... by lemko
Nov 15, 2004 (11:41 am)
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...on the Monte Carlo. This was the last generation of the Monte Carlo I really liked. I would be putting in my own upgraded powertrain as well.
 
Though the vote was JUNK for the 1954 Plymouth, I'd have voted SAVE even at $1,000. The bodies were built by Briggs back then and last forever. I've seen these period Mopars sit in junkyards for 40 years and the bodies are still intact. Though they were dull cars then, they are uncommon enough to be interesting today. My grandfather had the more ungainly 1953 Plymouth.
 
For the 1955 Chevrolet, I'd vote JUNK at that price. First of all, the car is a four-door sedan which isn't the most desirable body style. Second, I'd have to undo all the crap he did to the car. Third, the old Camaro wheels are a clear sign that this vehicle belongs to some mulleted yahoo.

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