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Re: Volvang? Mustvo? [texases] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Nov 04, 2009 1:12 pm)

No way you can register the Stang-vo in California.
 
You could register it in Nevada. You can own an atomic bomb there as well.
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Re: Volvang? Mustvo? [andre1969] by explorerx4
Nov 04, 2009 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 04, 2009 4:12 pm)

my 91 mustang got smog tested this past summer on the dyno setup, too old for OBD2. never had a tuneup but still passed. test rpms were 2300+. 1000 = 40 mph.
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Re: some ct craigs... [explorerx4] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 04, 2009 4:23 pm)

59 SquareBird --- scary looking thing. I'd think about $6500 would be enough, if you even wanted it. Interior dinged up, engine bay makes me cringe, who knows what lies underneath it all? You can buy these pretty clean for $12K--$15K or so. You ain't gettin' THERE from HERE.
 
68 volvo P1800 --- not too far off if the car is show quality. Try $10,000 to $11,000.
 
'69 Goat -- it would have to be pretty impressive for that money.
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Re: some ct craigs... [explorerx4] by xwesx
Nov 04, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 04, 2009 4:23 pm)

On that Saab, that's quite an asking price given the fact that the buyer could not possibly verify that, with the head gasket replaced, it would run. It would be easy enough to get the thing put back together, but if there are other problems at that point, you have a very expensive paper weight.
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Re: some ct craigs... [xwesx] by oregonboy
Nov 04, 2009 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Nov 04, 2009 5:10 pm)

In order to be work buying for more than "parts", an inoperable car has to be sufficiently desirable to be worth rebuilding. That Saab clearly is not.
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Re: some ct craigs... [oregonboy] by texases
Nov 04, 2009 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Nov 04, 2009 6:00 pm)

But...but...he NEEDS $1,500! C'mon, have a heart! "Mechanic arrested for DUI" - translation: "This job drove him to drink!"
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Re: some ct craigs... [texases] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (9:14 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Nov 04, 2009 7:38 pm)

it's a parts car.
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Re: Volvang? Mustvo? [explorerx4] by andre1969
Nov 05, 2009 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 04, 2009 5:08 pm)

My Intrepid's first emissions test was the dyno/treadmill thing, as Maryland hadn't been equipped with the OBD-II test equipment yet. My grandmother's '85 LeSabre and my '85 Silverado both had to go on that same test. I compared the results to the Intrepid, and noticed that, while the 2000 standards were stricter than 1985's, both the LeSabre and Silverado would have still passed the 2000 standards with flying colors!
 
So if a standard 5-liter carbureted V-8 with 100,000+ miles on it can easily pass an emissions test, I'm guessing there's plenty of wiggle room for much bigger, higher performance engines...provided they're tuned up correctly.
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Re: Volvang? Mustvo? [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 05, 2009 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 05, 2009 7:05 am)

It doesn't matter what comes out the tailpipe in many states unfortunately, but what the engine is, and what's on it in terms of emissions equipment.
 
Here's how it works in California at any rate:
 
"The basic intent of the California engine change laws is that when you do an engine swap, the new engine/transmission cannot pollute more than the original engine/transmission. This means the newly installed engine must be the same year (or newer) as the vehicle, and all emissions controls on the newly installed engine must be installed and functional. Also, you can't put a heavy-duty truck engine (over 6000 lb GVW) into an S-10 Truck because heavy-duty truck engines have less stringent emissions limits than light duty trucks.
 
To get your engine swap approved, you must go to a Referee Station."

 
source: http://www.jagsthatrun.com
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Re: some ct craigs... [Mr_Shiftright] by jrosasmc
Nov 05, 2009 (8:50 am)
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Shifty - quite right. Now I know why a lot of late-model Saabs meet a premature death and go to the big parking lot in the sky.
 
Also, I just had to share this note - a friend of mine recently traded in her '98 900 SE Turbo 5-speed sedan (it was giving her a lot of trouble) for a new Acura. And - she only received $800 for a trade-in! This was for a rust-free New England car with 120k miles on it! Man, she was so angry that she swore off Saabs forever.

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