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About that Philco Record Player by lokki
Nov 04, 2009 (7:06 am)
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ghulet -
 
"... I always thought Chrysler was first to offer a record player as an option..."
 
I'd always thought so too, and so I decided to do a little research (if googling something count's as 'research').
 
I don't think this guy knows what he's talking about - I think he's off by a decade.
The Philco wasn't around (if I'm reading this right) until the mid 60's.
http://cultureandcommunication.org/deadmedia/index.php/Hip_Pocket_Records
 
And then there's this site which is interesting reading, with its old advertisements and magazine articles about the players:
 
http://ookworld.com/hiwayhifi.html
 
Chrysler made this dream[playing records in cars] a reality with two generations of in-car phonographs. The original Highway Hi-Fi hit the streets in Autumn of 1955, for model year 1956 -- a factory option in the full Chrysler Corporation line of vehicles: Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, DeSoto and Imperial
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Re: About that Philco Record Player [lokki] by tjc78
Nov 04, 2009 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Nov 04, 2009 7:06 am)

OK... I am only 31 but remember vinyl fairly well and have a lot of older albums. If you walk too hard across the floor the turntable could skip. How in the heck did it work in the car? I guess you could increase the pressure the stylus puts on the record, however, that would kill the records over time.
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Re: About that Philco Record Player [tjc78] by texases
Nov 04, 2009 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 04, 2009 7:45 am)

"I guess you could increase the pressure the stylus puts on the record, however, that would kill the records over time. "
 
You got it. They couldn't care less about wearing out the grooves, just having it in the car was the point. Of couse, their rarity shows how unsuccessful an idea it was...
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Re: About that Philco Record Player [tjc78] by lokki
Nov 04, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 04, 2009 7:45 am)

The article explains that they made the player with a tone arm that would only move horizontally and that the arm was also made so that its pivot point was the center of mass so as to avoid lateral-acceleration induced skipping during turns.
 
The tracking force was 2 grams! Essentially the things came from factory with a penny already glued to the tone arm
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Re: About that Philco Record Player [tjc78] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 04, 2009 7:45 am)

They skipped---that's how they worked.
 
Note well how quickly they disappeared as an accessory.
 
I think the idea is that you would park with your honey and put on a romantic tune or two. Given how fast a 45 rpm record played (ever notice how short the songs were in the 1950s?---I guess this was before those long drug-induced solos of the 60s )--seems like you'd be rudely interrupted 25 times an hour.
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Re: About that Philco Record Player [lokki] by tjc78
Nov 04, 2009 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Nov 04, 2009 7:58 am)

Essentially the things came from factory with a penny already glued to the tone arm
 
Thats what I figured. I didn't have a chance to read the article yet. I guess we have a come along way in car audio! Thanks for the explanation.
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Re: About that Philco Record Player [Mr_Shiftright] by tjc78
Nov 04, 2009 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 04, 2009 7:59 am)

Note well how quickly they disappeared as an accessory.
 
Yep and then there were 8-tracks
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and then there were 8-tracks by lokki
Nov 04, 2009 (9:18 am)
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"think the idea is that you would park with your honey and put on a romantic tune or two... seems like you'd be rudely interrupted 25 times an hour"

 
And then there were 8-tracks.
 
Yeah, they were a big improvement - you could tell how things were going - if she didn't notice that the music was starting over
 
Reminds me of the famous old poem from my high school days:
 
"Oh John, please let's not park here tonight!"
"Oh John, please let's not park here!"
"Oh John, please let's not park!"
"Oh John, please let's not!"
"Oh John, please let's!"
"Oh John, please!"
"Oh John!"
"Oh!"
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Re: and then there were 8-tracks [lokki] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Nov 04, 2009 9:18 am)

Aside from how short the songs were, the production values really stunk--sounded loike they were recorded in a garage (probably were, actually). It really took the Beatles and 33 rpm vinyl to make R&R music sound good. I still think music sounds best on vinyl.
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Volvang? Mustvo? by qbrozen
Nov 04, 2009 (10:28 am)
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Well, whatever you'd call it, here it is.
 
I'm surprised the bidding has gone that high, frankly, yet the reserve is not met.

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