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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 02, 2009 7:29 am) In one sense, these huge "designer edition" barges were cashing in on genuine popularity for what Americans considered "luxury". At the same time, we see cars like BMW and Honda and Toyota taking a different path in 1980, one that would lead them to great success and American automakers to disaster. I like to think of the big Marks as a 'swan song' of an era never to return. I wouldn't call them paragons of quality, but as social history, they are important I think. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 02, 2009 7:13 am) Would the 400 be enough engine to move one of these cars with any dignity? I guess mentally, I'm trying to compare it to the 150 hp 360 in my '79 New Yorkers, or the 165-170 hp 350 in my '76 LeMans. Both cars with similar gearing and hp, but less torque. But also a lot less mass.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 02, 2009 7:53 am) I had a '79 Town Coupe with the 400 and it moved along OK (when it ran right). Plenty of torque and effortless on the highway, you could easily peg the speedo. If you have ever driven a late 80s Town Car/GM/CV I would bet it would be about the same. The 460 was so choked down by 78 that IMO it doesn't matter which engine you have in the late 70s cars |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 02, 2009 7:29 am) Even in my 79 Continental Brochure the Williamsburg has the opera windows. Dark grey sides, light grey uppers and vinyl roof with red pinstripe and red velour interior..... yep 70s alright! I always liked the light jade green they offered on those cars, but I guess that was just the regular models, and not on any of the designer editions? Here is a Givenchy edition (78) is this the color you are thinking of? .
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 02, 2009 7:53 am) Anyway, to answer your question, none of the price guides or databases I use offer any premium or mention of extra points for a 460, so I guess this has not shown up as a factor in pricing, based on past sales. |
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 02, 2009 8:52 am) |
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....I seem to remember a lighter, metallic green (let's call it dark seafoam) with matching metallic-y vinyl top and velour interior on those Mark V's. My neighbor's friend (who worked for Ford) had a Mark IV in the most gaudy/lavish color combo; basically a metallic champagne with burgandy vinyl top and two-tone leather interior to match....I thought it was very chic as a ten year-old future gay boy, and it was considerably more fancy than anything my parents owned (various array of smallish cars and pickup trucks with vinyl interiors, no A/C and crank windows). That Mark was traded in on an Escort four-door.
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 02, 2009 8:52 am) That dark green is nice, though. I guess that's what they call "Midnight Jade". I bet a 2-tone of the two jades would look really sharp.
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Replying to: ghulet (Jul 02, 2009 10:04 am) I think I've seen a few Mark IVs at car shows in that color combo. If it's what I'm thinking, it's a pretty nice color combo. Something that looks better in person than any attempt to describe it would sound! Oh, I ran into an old friend of mine during lunch, someone I haven't seen in ages. Last I'd heard, he picked up a BMW 750 something-or-other...the V12 model. I asked him how that was going and he said it was the best car he's ever driven, all three times that it started! At one point he let it sit too long and the battery died. He had also left it locked. Unfortunately, as he described it, the power lock on the door are purely electrical...nothing mechanical. So when it died, there was no way to get into it! He said he finally figured out to open the trunk, take the trunk light out, and hook a battery charger up to that, and it eventually gave him just enough juice to get the door unlocked. |
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I've always liked these, but the 'I've got a bible full of receipts', means 'you can start volume 2 if you expect any more life outta this thing': http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/1250551530.html restorable '79 Trans Am....what are these worth?: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/1250458807.html "Willing to accept trades" but cash is tight, so CASH ONLY, lol: http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1250424548.html
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