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Re: Some Lead Sleds [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 29, 2009 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 28, 2009 5:03 pm)

That LeSabre is near me.
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that Mark V... by ghulet
Jul 01, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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....very pretty but you can tell it's not a high-line (interior looks kinda plain and NO power passenger seat, blasphemy!!); I remember there were a plethora of 'designer' editions (Bill Blass was two-tone white and blue, w/matching interior, I think; there were also Pucci and Givenchy editions, among others).
 
Since I'm most familiar with GMs, those old tanks seem nice enough for the money.
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Re: that Mark V... [ghulet] by tjc78
Jul 02, 2009 (3:48 am)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jul 01, 2009 2:40 pm)

I remember there were a plethora of 'designer' editions
 
There were four... Cartier, Blass, Givenchy, and Pucci. The one and only way to be sure its a designer series cars is by the opera window. If it wasn't marked on the window its just a plain 'ol Mark. So many sellers think they have a "Cartier" edition just because the clock says Cartier. Almost all late 70s Lincolns had a Cartier clock standard.
 
For 78 the Blass was actually a Brownish red with matching interior Here is a nice example
In 79 the Blass was the white/blue combo you mentioned.
 
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Re: that Mark V... [ghulet] by andre1969
Jul 02, 2009 (4:43 am)
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I think one detail that makes that Mark V look plain on the inside is that it's missing one touch that was always the sign of an upscale car (domestic, at least)...carpeting on the lower door panels! Even on cheaper cars, that was one way they distinguished the cheaper models from the nicer ones. For example, a 1978 Malibu, Impala, Catalina, or LeMans didn't have carpeting, but the Malibu Classic, Caprice, Bonneville, and Grand LeMans did.
 
So in something as upscale as a Mark V, those door panels look downright naked! I think the pattern in the leather makes the car look a bit plain, too. It's just too clean and understated, not over-stuffed and pimpy. At least that car has what, IMO, are the "right" options...the 460 V-8 and a sunroof!
 
Now that I think about it, I believe I've only had one car with a power passenger seat. And that was, of all things, an '88 LeBaron turbo coupe! At least, I think it was power...memory's getting a bit fuzzy now. My '85 LeSabre had a power recline on the passenger seat, but the fore/aft was manual, and it didn't have any other adjustments. I thought the power recline was a bit useless though, since you would be able to adjust a manual seat much more quickly.
 
Well, in a way, I guess my '76 LeMans has a power passenger seat. But that's because it's a solid bench, so where the driver's side goes, the passenger side follows!
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Re: that Mark V... [tjc78] by andre1969
Jul 02, 2009 (4:49 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 02, 2009 3:48 am)

Normally brown cars aren't my thing, but that '78 Bill Blass is pretty sharp looking. I think the hint of red really helps. That's a really nice paintjob on it, too. So shiny and smooth that you can identify every single car that's reflected in it. Cars have come a long way since those days, for the most part, but I think one thing they definitely did better in those days, was smooth paint. At least, when you looked at the reflections on the paint, they seemed more crisp and clear. The orange-peel was still there, but didn't seem nearly as bad as on many of today's cars.
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Re: that Mark V... [andre1969] by lemko
Jul 02, 2009 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 02, 2009 4:49 am)

Wasn't the Diamond Jubillee Mark V the ultimate Mark? Doesn't it rank above the Designer Editions? Isn't it something like $8K more? I like that little diamond chip in the opera windows - nice touch!
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Re: that Mark V... [lemko] by tjc78
Jul 02, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 02, 2009 6:29 am)

The DJE was the ultimate Mark. The package added 8K to the base price of a regular mark. The designer editions also carried a pretty hefty price tag as they were pretty much fully equipped. The main difference the DJE has over the designer Marks was thicker carpets, unique interior w/ center console, leather dash, the diamond in the opera window and they came with a tool kit. Most of the other options were the same. Alot of people don't realize that the 79 "Collectors series" Marks were really the same as the DJE just in different color schemes. IMO the 79s had better colors (Navy, White, and a few silver) as opposed to the 78s being gold/gold or powder blue/blue. However, the 78 was the last year for the 460 so there is an argument there over the 79s.
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Re: that Mark V... [lemko] by andre1969
Jul 02, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 02, 2009 6:29 am)

Yeah, for 1978 I think the Diamond Jubilee Edition was probably the top-ranking Mark. I think my friend TJ said that his originally stickered for over $20K, and the DJE accounted for something like $8,000 of that. And I think stuff like the 460 V-8 and power sunroof were still separate options from that! I have no idea how expensive those other designer editions were, though...I'm sure they were up there.
 
For 1979, there was a "Collector's Edition" that was essentially the Diamond Jubilee interior. I think it only came in midnight blue, though. There was also a Collector's Edition version of the Continental Sedan. Maybe the Coupe' too?
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Re: that Mark V... [andre1969] by tjc78
Jul 02, 2009 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 02, 2009 4:49 am)

The original Marks I have seen always had nice paint. I believe the 78s/79s were clearcoat at least on the DJE and the Collector's Series.
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Re: that Mark V... [tjc78] by andre1969
Jul 02, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 02, 2009 6:52 am)

I never really cared for that champagne/gold color they offered on the DJE in '78. But that light powder blue is to die for!
 
I always liked the light jade green they offered on those cars, but I guess that was just the regular models, and not on any of the designer editions?

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