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Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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Re: new pic [Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque
Jun 10, 2009 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 10, 2009 2:49 pm)

Yeah, the 240 Z and the '84-'89 300 ZX, especially the 2+2, are essentially different cars. The first is a surprisingly good sports car, especially for the price when new, while the second is more in the spirit of a Japanese Thunderbird.
 
The 2+2, which is the model I own, is really a luxury coupe, that happens to be a hatchback instead of a traditional three box design. It's not intended to be a sports car, and I was under no illusion that it was when I purchased it from the first owner. I'm also aware that it's less desirable than the two seater. However, I bought it because it's well appointed (mine has leather and all the options), it rides surprisingly well, and it cruises beautifully. It's also reliable and fairly low maintenance, and I happen to like the styling (personal taste). It clearly isn't a canyon carver, nor does it have blistering acceleration. However, it corners, handles and steers well enough for my needs, and its acceleration, while certainly not blistering, is very adequate.
 
The fact that you can go days now before seeing this first generation 300 ZXs is a plus, in my book. I'm not in love with this car, but I enjoy driving and owning it. In the end, that's what matters.
 
I also enjoy my E30, which serves a similar purpose as the 300 ZX, but the BMW has been higher maintenance.
 
My wife would have traded both of my older cars for a new something or other long ago, but, fortunately, she's tolerant of my automotive eccentricities. One of the reasons I tend to like older cars more than new ones is that, strange as it this may sound, the new ones are too perfect. They may be fast, even very fast, but they tend to have little character. Many new cars are just too generic for my tastes, but it looks like we ain't seen nothin' yet.
 
My problem is that I like many cars, but I guess I'm hardly unique on this among Edmunds forum participants.
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Re: not a project car.... [Mr_Shiftright] by lokki
Jun 11, 2009 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 10, 2009 6:38 pm)

If you absolutely had to have one.... here's one in very nice condition - with the manual- that will go for less than $5K.
 
I'm thinking you could do a lot of repairs and still come out more than $11K ahead before you threw it away.
 
Surprisingly though I saw several VERY high mileage examples on eBay... one had 250k miles on it.
 
Some people really are into S&M SAABs, I guess
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Re: not a project car.... [lokki] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 11, 2009 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Jun 11, 2009 6:58 am)

The bottom ends of those Saab engines are indestructible. I bet you though that any high mileage Saab 900 turbo has had one or more head gaskets, repairs to the cracked upper control arms, and a long, long string of repairs. Think of all the people who go through the constant agony of keeping Jaguar XJ6s alive, or the murderous costs of a Mercedes 6.3.
 
Buy an old Volvo, ,you betta off.
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Re: new pic [hpmctorque] by qbrozen
Jun 11, 2009 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jun 10, 2009 7:19 pm)

for some reason, I didn't realize you had a 300z and an e30. How weird. Which year E30? Ours is an '87.
 
You don't by any chance have a G35 and XC90 as your daily drivers, do you? ;b
 
By the way, thanks everyone for the compliments on the Z!
I should probably start reconsidering fixing the AC to make it more of a 3-seasons car so I can enjoy it even more.
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Re: new pic [qbrozen] by hpmctorque
Jun 12, 2009 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jun 11, 2009 7:54 am)

My E30 is indeed an '87. I have a set of mounted winter tires, so I can drive it on all but the worst winter days in the DC area. Since I don't put on a lot of miles I alternate between the Z and the E30 most of the time. When necessary I can always use our Acura, which my wife usually drives.
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. by fintail
Jun 14, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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The fintail doesn't push as easily as it looks, especially at that point where a sloped driveway meets the street. But I was able to get it out and down to the shop. I wonder what this setback will cost...
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Been real quiet around here by gsemike
Jun 19, 2009 (10:51 am)
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High mileage but looks respectable
 
High mileage and a little less respectable
 
It actually looks alot better than the pics
 
New tranny + new breaks (sic) + new frame = Very reliable
 
Looks decent but I know very little about these Are these decent?
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Re: Been real quiet around here [gsemike] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 19, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: gsemike (Jun 19, 2009 10:51 am)

Miled-up '99 BMW 328i -- price is fair enough. Check to see if radiator, thermostat, water pump, front end bushings, rear subframe recall (for cracks) have been done recently. If not, count on it all being necessary.
 
91 Porsche 944 S2 -- fun car, great handler---if the car is truly *beautiful* he might get his price or close. I'd offer $12.5K in this market.
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Re: Been real quiet around here [Mr_Shiftright] by gsemike
Jun 19, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 19, 2009 11:14 am)

My friend has a 2000 328 and just had the rear subframe replaced. The dealer or BMW NA covered the repair but did not own up that it was a recall.

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