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Re: Ooh yummy! [andre1969] by oregonboy
Jan 29, 2009 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 29, 2009 12:49 pm)

I don't understand something. The seller says that the DeSoto is a Firedome "with the fire flight option". Is that accurate? I know that the Fireflite was a DeSoto model. My parents owned a navy-blue 4-door Fireflite when I first got my driver's license. I have never heard of a "Fire flight" (sic) option on a Firedome.
 
But then, I am not an expert on Desotos.
Our car did have the "Fireflite" script on the rear fender as in the ad you posted.
I noticed that the Ebay car says "Firedome" on the rear fender.
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Re: Ooh yummy! [andre1969] by fezo
Jan 29, 2009 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 29, 2009 2:34 pm)

The interior of that DeSoto reminds me a lot of the folks old 57 Plymouth Custom Suburban. Outside it was kind of a light green - aqua. I remember my dad's business partner at the time bought the same car in blue which I liked better. Of course at the time I was trying to talk dad into a tow tone read and white DeSoto..
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Re: Ooh yummy! [oregonboy] by andre1969
Jan 29, 2009 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 29, 2009 3:02 pm)

As far as I know, the only way to get a 4-bbl was to upgrade to the Fireflite model, which was about $500 more expensive than the Firedome in 1957. However, it came with a standard automatic transmission, the 4-bbl setup, and a nicer interior, so it was probably money very well spent. Now on the cheap Firesweep, which was the shorter Dodge-based model and had a 325 poly-head V-8, you could get it with a 2-bbl (245 hp) or 4-bbl (260 hp). So maybe it was possible to get a 4-bbl on the Firedome if you special ordered it?
 
My old car encyclopedia mentions that for 1958, the 4-bbl was an option on the Firedome, but I take what that book says with a grain of salt. But I remember the quote as something like "The Firedome, with the optional 305 hp TurboFlash V-8, could do 0-60 in 7.7 seconds and hit 115 mph with little strain". In 1958, the 305 hp was the 361-4bbl, while the Firedome's standard engine was a 295 hp 361-2bbl.
 
For 1959, my auto encyclopedia doesn't say anything about a 4-bbl setup in the Firedome, but has the Adventurer's hot 383 dual-quad shown as being offered across the board. I don't know if that's true or not. But if it was, I imagine the Dodge-based Firesweep must've been a hot little number with 350 hp under the hood!
 
The eBay car is definitely a Firedome. I think when they say "With Fireflite option", they just mean they found a 4-bbl, intake manifold, and air cleaner off of a Fireflite and bolted it on the Firedome. I hope they did some internal mods with the engine too though, because wouldn't the 2-bbl and 4-bbl use a different cam?
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Re: Ooh yummy! [andre1969] by texases
Jan 29, 2009 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 29, 2009 3:17 pm)

Fireflite, Firedome, Firesweep, TurboFlash, Adventurer...DeSoto sure had some great names! What do we get now? Alpha-numeric nonsense...
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Re: Ooh yummy! [texases] by berri
Jan 29, 2009 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 29, 2009 3:32 pm)

Yeah, and I think Lincoln may be the worst. A lot of their nomenclature doesn't really make sense to most consumers.
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Re: Ooh yummy! [andre1969] by explorerx4
Jan 29, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 29, 2009 12:49 pm)

another mpoar guy. once picture has a dodge ram and chrysler 300 in it.
in another picture, you can see a partially disassembled dodge challenger near the garage.
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Re: Ooh yummy! [andre1969] by xwesx
Jan 29, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 29, 2009 3:17 pm)

I noted in the E-Bay advertisement that the seller says his father upgraded the 341 Hemi (stock) with the 4-bbl "fireflite option" and accessories a couple of years after it was purchased. It came with a 2-bbl, according to the ad. I think that part was about mid-way through the text.
 
So no, it's not a factory Fireflite, but hey, it's got a hemi.
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Re: Ooh yummy! [andre1969] by 210delray
Jan 29, 2009 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 29, 2009 2:34 pm)

There used to be a 2-tone green 1957 Fireflite 4-door sedan that showed up at local car shows from time to time back in the early 90's. The body was that same dark metallic green, with the contrast roof and spear in a pale green. Looked really sharp, IMO.
 
Just wondering, I may have seen this same car! It was a 4-door sedan, green and white, and IIRC, it had Maryland plates that read "JET AGE." This was in the late 80s at the Sully (Plantation) Car Show in Chantilly, VA. I don't have any photos of it unfortunately.
 
I never could keep the DeSoto model names straight, but those '57 and '58s were great looking cars, as were the Chryslers. My aunt had a '57 Plymouth Savoy 6, nice looking also, but it gave her so much trouble that she traded it for a '59 Chevy.
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Re: Ooh yummy! [andre1969] by fintail
Jan 29, 2009 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 29, 2009 12:49 pm)

It is pretty sharp, but come on, after doing all that work, blow another grand on some wide whites!
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Re: Ooh yummy! [fintail] by fezo
Jan 29, 2009 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 29, 2009 7:32 pm)

Pretty much the whole Chrysler line looked great in 1957. They really caught the look for that time. Unfortunately they did rust like mad so there's not a load of them around.

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