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Re: guy wants to trade for my 911 [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 20, 2009 7:11 am)

Doesn't seem like a fair trade for you, and besides, you'd be trading an appreciating asset for a depreciating one, especially with the mods he has on it.
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Re: guy wants to trade for my 911 [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Jan 20, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 20, 2009 7:59 am)

That is kinda what I thought. I just like validation from the experts. I originally thought he meant to trade the car plus cash, but he corrected me on that.
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Re: guy wants to trade for my 911 [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 20, 2009 8:02 am)

At best he's holding.....what....$8K--$9K in his poker hand? And it'll be less next year. Modded cars are hard to sell. Everyone thinks they've been thrashed.
 
If it were a stock, pristine 1998 M3, well that's closer to it.
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Re: guy wants to trade for my 911 [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Jan 20, 2009 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 20, 2009 8:10 am)

The problem is that this guy (like most people who mod their cars) thinks he has a pristine M3 worth $10K or so and he has "improved" it by a few thousand $.
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Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [Mr_Shiftright] by bumpy
Jan 20, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 19, 2009 10:29 am)

At that point, it really comes down to the size of the bearings, number of rings, valve train, etc. I'd guess a late stovebolt 302 would put them all under the table and the GMC V6 would outlast the stovebolt, but it's not an I6.
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Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 20, 2009 9:48 am)

300K on any engine is a remarkable occurrence, very very rare.
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Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [Mr_Shiftright] by oregonboy
Jan 20, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 20, 2009 9:54 am)

I just have 86k to go on my Tacoma 3.4 DOHC V6. The way I used to drive, I would do that in 2-1/2 years, but since I'm now semi-retired, it could take a long, long time.
 
It's had a fairly easy life. The majority of the miles that I have put on it were up and down I-5 (at 65-75 mph). It's geared pretty tall, so the RPMs stay reasonably low.
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Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [oregonboy] by andre1969
Jan 20, 2009 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 20, 2009 11:16 am)

I think my Mom & stepdad are up to around 278,000 miles on their 1999 Altima, which I think has a 2.4. Can't remember if it's SOHC or DOHC. They commute in to work together, and probably do around 110-120 miles per day, a good deal of it highway, but even the non-highway parts I'd still classify as "semi-highway"...4-lane road with a 50-55 mph speed limit, and relatively few traffic lights.
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Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 20, 2009 11:23 am)

You will see high mileages on engine but often they have had the head off, new head gasket, etc. or its been opened up for some other reason.
 
One reason you don't see many 300K engines is that statistically, the car itself is likely to fall prey to some other malady or misfortune and thus won't make it to 300K because it'll be scrapped before that.
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Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Jan 20, 2009 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 20, 2009 11:45 am)

One reason you don't see many 300K engines is that statistically, the car itself is likely to fall prey to some other malady or misfortune and thus won't make it to 300K because it'll be scrapped before that.
 
Definitely true. Now as far as I know, my Mom & stepdad's Altima has never had the engine opened up. But it did eat the first transmission, under warranty, at 35,000 miles. And also when it was fairly new, my stepdad was in a rear-ender with it. He said he barely felt the impact, but it was enough to deploy the airbags. I think the total bill, airbags included, was around $3,000.
 
Simply because of that long commute, they also got fairly high mileage out of some other cars. First was a 1984 Tempo that made it to around 160,000. The other was a 1986 Monte Carlo that had 179,000 on it when they gave it to me in 1998. I delivered pizzas back then, and managed to rack up another 13,000 in just three months! At 192,000 miles, I got t-boned while taking off on a delivery, and that was it for the car. Shame too, because I would have liked to have seen how far that Monte would go. It was starting to smoke just a bit when warming up, and under hard acceleration you could see it sometimes. Not blue, black, or white smoke, just sort of a dirty gray.
 
My 2000 Intrepid is sitting on around 144,000 miles now, but because of my short commute and other cars I drive, chances are it'll never see 300K. I think it went about 6,000 miles last year, so at the rate things are going, 300K is another 26 years off!

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