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#16495 of 19405
Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [Mr_Shiftright] by explorerx4
Jan 18, 2009 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 18, 2009 7:44 pm)

yeah, but it would do it for 300k miles!
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Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [explorerx4] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 19, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 18, 2009 8:02 pm)

300K? Lots of luck. It would be the rare and remarkable small pickup truck engine that goes 300K without an overhaul. In all my years of appraising, I've only validated a mere handful of 300K ++ engines that didn't have some work done on them beforehand. Most of these claims are simply not valid, as they don't come from original owners, or if they do, they have no supporting evidence.
 
300K is well beyond the life expectancy of an internal combustion engine. Maybe there's a claim out there that everyone in Ohio lives to be 105, but I say "prove it".
#16497 of 19405
Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Jan 19, 2009 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 19, 2009 9:48 am)

Even if 300K might be a bit optimistic, would it at least be a safe bet that the 300 straight six might last longer than a 225 slant six or a Chevy 250 inline, simply because the larger displacement would mean the engine didn't have to work as hard?
 
At 300 cubes, the thing is already pushing into base V-8 territory (301, 305, 318) for the timeframe. Heck, it's bigger than a lot of base truck V-8's today. At 4.9 liters, it's larger than the Ford 4.6, Toyota and Mopar 4.7's, and GM 4.8 V-8's.
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Re: It's BARGAIN DAY! (andre1969) [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 19, 2009 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 19, 2009 10:03 am)

Honestly I don't see the logic of why one type of engine should last any longer than another, based strictly on size of the engine I mean. If I had to put money on a race to 300K among a Slant Six, a Ford 300 or a Chevy 250, I'd take the Chevy 250. My gut feeling is that the Slant Six will sludge up before that, the Ford 300 will lose oil pressure but the Energizer 250 will keep on rolling.
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guy wants to trade for my 911 by lemmer
Jan 20, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Straight trade my 86 Carrera for his '95 M3. From the pictures, his car looks near perfect.
 
it has 78,900 miles.
Recent work done in the last 6 months are = Dinan chip, Dinan throttle body, Dinan exhaust from the cat back(stainless steel), Dinan cold air intake (carbon fibre), cross drilled rotors/ceramic pads/stainless steel brake lines,all new polk audio speakers in original locations with original grills,new updated water pump, new belts with new upgraded pulleys, new fuel pump and complete service.(I work for BMW).
things not working that i am aware of are the sunroof and the driver side heated seat ,most likely its the switches, i never bothered fixing it since i never use them. New Michelins.

 
What do you guys think? I didn't think E36 M3s were worth all that much.
#16500 of 19405
86 Carrera vs. 95 M3 by lokki
Jan 20, 2009 (7:29 am)
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What kind of a ride are you looking for? It's not a high-speed express like the Porsche. Maybe it used to be but he's sharpened up all the edges. It sounds to me like he's created what I call a 'dirt-bike' ride vs a 'street-bike' - that is:
 
Great for a quick Sunday morning scream through the mountains, but will beat you up if you try to use it every day. Outruns and outhandles 94% of the vehicles you encounter, even in the mountains on Sunday Mornings. Quick throttle response, quick brake response, high revs, high noise, stiff ride.
 
In summary, lots and lots of fun, but your wife is going to hate it unless SHE gets to drive it on Sunday mornings someplace with lots of tight turns.
 
This, of course, is just my humble opinion..... and perhaps not worth much since I've owned neither an M3 nor a Porsche.
#16501 of 19405
Re: guy wants to trade for my 911 [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 20, 2009 7:11 am)

Doesn't seem like a fair trade for you, and besides, you'd be trading an appreciating asset for a depreciating one, especially with the mods he has on it.
#16502 of 19405
Re: guy wants to trade for my 911 [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Jan 20, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 20, 2009 7:59 am)

That is kinda what I thought. I just like validation from the experts. I originally thought he meant to trade the car plus cash, but he corrected me on that.
#16503 of 19405
Re: guy wants to trade for my 911 [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 20, 2009 8:02 am)

At best he's holding.....what....$8K--$9K in his poker hand? And it'll be less next year. Modded cars are hard to sell. Everyone thinks they've been thrashed.
 
If it were a stock, pristine 1998 M3, well that's closer to it.
#16504 of 19405
Re: guy wants to trade for my 911 [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Jan 20, 2009 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 20, 2009 8:10 am)

The problem is that this guy (like most people who mod their cars) thinks he has a pristine M3 worth $10K or so and he has "improved" it by a few thousand $.

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