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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 18, 2009 7:37 am) For 1973, the 225 was cut a bit to 105, and the 198, to 95 hp. Same for 1974. For 1975, the 198 was dropped, and the 225 was reduced to 95 hp. It recovered slightly to 100 hp for 1976. For 1977-79, the 225 put out 100 hp. For 1978 though, my book lists a 90 hp version that was optional. I wonder if that was some attempt at an economy version? Also for 1977-79, a 2-bbl was offered, with 110 hp. The 2-bbl setup was standard on the Aspen/Volare (F-body) and LeBaron/Diplomat (M-body) wagons, as well as the Newport/St. Regis (R-body). The 1-bbl was standard in the F- and M-body sedans and coupes. In 1980, the 2-bbl was dropped. The 1-bbl was cut to 90 hp, then a measly 85 for 1981! For 1982 it went back up to 90 hp, where it stayed through the end, which was 1983 in cars, and I want to say 1987 in pickups. After the 2-bbl slant six was dropped, you were probably better off just upgrading to the 318, as the cars were too big and heavy, and the 1-bbl was just too weak and overburdened with emissions controls. In 1981, Chrysler started using a tall 2.26:1 axle in the V-8 cars, while the slant six was stuck with a 2.94:1 axle, so I wouldn't be surprised in the V-8 got better economy in most driving conditions. When it comes to truck 6-cyl engines in those days, I guess the Ford 300 was about the best of the lot. I've heard that in terms of durability, it was to Ford what the slant six had been to Mopar. It was big enough that I'm sure it still had enough hp and torque to move a full-sized truck with some dignity. The 4.1 inline-6 that GM used only had 105-110 hp, so it wasn't much better than the slant six. I think the 4.3 that came out for 1985 was pretty good though.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 18, 2009 10:30 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 18, 2009 7:44 pm) 
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 18, 2009 8:02 pm) 300K is well beyond the life expectancy of an internal combustion engine. Maybe there's a claim out there that everyone in Ohio lives to be 105, but I say "prove it".
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 19, 2009 9:48 am) At 300 cubes, the thing is already pushing into base V-8 territory (301, 305, 318) for the timeframe. Heck, it's bigger than a lot of base truck V-8's today. At 4.9 liters, it's larger than the Ford 4.6, Toyota and Mopar 4.7's, and GM 4.8 V-8's.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 19, 2009 10:03 am)
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Straight trade my 86 Carrera for his '95 M3. From the pictures, his car looks near perfect. it has 78,900 miles. Recent work done in the last 6 months are = Dinan chip, Dinan throttle body, Dinan exhaust from the cat back(stainless steel), Dinan cold air intake (carbon fibre), cross drilled rotors/ceramic pads/stainless steel brake lines,all new polk audio speakers in original locations with original grills,new updated water pump, new belts with new upgraded pulleys, new fuel pump and complete service.(I work for BMW). things not working that i am aware of are the sunroof and the driver side heated seat ,most likely its the switches, i never bothered fixing it since i never use them. New Michelins. What do you guys think? I didn't think E36 M3s were worth all that much.
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What kind of a ride are you looking for? It's not a high-speed express like the Porsche. Maybe it used to be but he's sharpened up all the edges. It sounds to me like he's created what I call a 'dirt-bike' ride vs a 'street-bike' - that is: Great for a quick Sunday morning scream through the mountains, but will beat you up if you try to use it every day. Outruns and outhandles 94% of the vehicles you encounter, even in the mountains on Sunday Mornings. Quick throttle response, quick brake response, high revs, high noise, stiff ride. In summary, lots and lots of fun, but your wife is going to hate it unless SHE gets to drive it on Sunday mornings someplace with lots of tight turns. This, of course, is just my humble opinion..... and perhaps not worth much since I've owned neither an M3 nor a Porsche. 
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 20, 2009 7:11 am)
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