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#16470 of 19331 Re: What about this one? 78 Alfa Spider or 1980 Spider [lokki] by qbrozen Jan 15, 2009 (10:43 am)
Replying to: lokki (Jan 15, 2009 10:25 am) I call it a toss-up. The '80 looks to be in better shape, but the two-tone paint and chrome wheels are just wrong. What was that we were just saying about the fast and furious crowd?   Oh, and "needs new seat cover" = $1,000. The interior is what was killing me on my Alfa. You can throw $4k at just refreshing the inside of the car.   You can get the alternator rebuilt. Not sure of price, though. Replies to this message: lokki (Jan 15, 2009 11:01 am)
#16471 of 19331 Re: What about this one? 78 Alfa Spider or 1980 Spider [qbrozen] by lokki Jan 15, 2009 (11:01 am)
Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 15, 2009 10:43 am) Thanks ... doubt if I'll get to actually buy either one.... Mrs. Lokki doesn't have a case of Spider-bite fever, like I do.   Re your bumper pain.... You have my sympathy.... Mrs. Lokki had a close encounter with a Grand Marquis a couple months ago. Different accident, but based on the same fundamental failure to grasp the laws of physics. Fast left turn on a cobblestone street in a rain storm. Original heading due West - turning South - Hit the Marquis (which was facing North) in the driver's door. To this day she has no idea why it happened.   My recommendation on the bumper question is to go to a nice warm quiet room and then have two or three scotches before you go out and look at the car again. I hate to recommend drowning sorrows in good Scotch to anyone, but it's always worked for me.....
#16472 of 19331 Re: What about this one? 78 Alfa Spider or 1980 Spider [lokki] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 15, 2009 (11:15 am)
Replying to: lokki (Jan 15, 2009 10:25 am) Alternator is $185 bucks + labor of course.   I'm not all that fond of SPICA fuel injection. If you get a 1982 on up you get Bosch injection. Doesn't rev quite as nicely but far more reliable.
#16473 of 19331 Re: great! [qbrozen] by boomchek Jan 15, 2009 (11:21 am)
Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 15, 2009 10:32 am) Ouch. I was thinking you can just buy and attach the black piece onto the bumper cover but it seems like the bumper cover itself sustained damage.   This bumper cover sounds and looks fairly complicated. I'm guessing about $2k to replace/fix. Replies to this message: stevedebi (Jan 15, 2009 1:10 pm) qbrozen (Jan 15, 2009 6:07 pm) boomchek (Jan 16, 2009 10:16 am) qbrozen (Jan 16, 2009 11:55 am) and 4 more...
#16474 of 19331 Re: [Mr_Shiftright] by stevedebi Jan 15, 2009 (1:03 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 14, 2009 1:17 pm) "Oh did they finally upgrade? That must have cost a pretty penny. Yeah, I was reading a somewhat dated article, so that makes sense. "   I saw a passing reference to the equipment upgrade in the book "Comm Check", about the Columbia disaster.
#16475 of 19331 Re: great! [boomchek] by stevedebi Jan 15, 2009 (1:10 pm)
Replying to: boomchek (Jan 15, 2009 11:21 am) "Ouch. I was thinking you can just buy and attach the black piece onto the bumper cover but it seems like the bumper cover itself sustained damage.    This bumper cover sounds and looks fairly complicated. I'm guessing about $2k to replace/fix. "   I'm not sure, it looks like the cover may be in three pieces, and only the one side piece seems broken. Maybe it can be replaced separately, but even that with paint would be several hundred.
#16476 of 19331 Re: great! [boomchek] by qbrozen Jan 15, 2009 (6:07 pm)
Replying to: boomchek (Jan 15, 2009 11:21 am) actually, the paint is all still good, as is the bumper cover. It just won't go back into place because she crushed the bumper support. And, yes, 3 parts is correct. They are the bumper cover, metal bumper support, and plastic bumper support. I've been doing research and it seems I'm looking at about $500-$600 in parts. I've tracked down most of it at saveswedish.com. My shopping cart is up to $380, but I'm still missing the foglight surround and foglight housing.   Here's the diagram:     I believe I'm looking at parts 3, 4, 7, 10, 12, and 16 for starters. But part 7 in this diagram is sans foglight. Replies to this message: boomchek (Jan 16, 2009 10:16 am) qbrozen (Jan 16, 2009 11:55 am) xwesx (Jan 16, 2009 1:01 pm) and 2 more... Mr_Shiftright (Jan 16, 2009 3:07 pm)
#16477 of 19331 Re: [stevedebi] by srs_49 Jan 16, 2009 (4:35 am)
Replying to: stevedebi (Jan 14, 2009 12:55 pm) I'm pretty sure they upgraded the electronics of the shuttle fleet in the early 1990's. I believe Columbia was the last one upgraded.   Yes, you're right.
#16478 of 19331 Re: [Mr_Shiftright] by srs_49 Jan 16, 2009 (4:39 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 14, 2009 1:17 pm) But I imagine all military hardware must remain more obsolete than if it were on the commercial marketplace. Can you imagine the lines of code you'd have to write for a space shuttle?   Believe me, you don't know the half of it. It takes a new military program 15-20 years to go from concept to being deployed and used by troops in the field (F-22 Raptor, for example). Many of parts designed in at the beginning are obsoleted before the product is fielded. That's one of the reasons why there's so much money to be made providing field support and upgrades for existing systems. Replies to this message: texases (Jan 16, 2009 7:15 am)
#16479 of 19331 Re: [srs_49] by texases Jan 16, 2009 (7:15 am)
Replying to: srs_49 (Jan 16, 2009 4:39 am) Think about keeping up the B-52s. 50 year old technology!

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