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#16394 of 19346 Re: Craigslist [lokki] by andre1969 Jan 12, 2009 (8:54 am)
Replying to: lokki (Jan 10, 2009 7:11 am) And on the Dart, I think by 76 they'd stripped out all the things that made a slant six such a great engine.... like most of the bearings. Is it not so, Andre?   I dunno about bearings, but I heard that at some point in the 1970's, Mopar went from a forged crankshaft to a cast crankshaft in their engines, and that made them less durable than before. The main issue with the slant six is that it adapted very poorly to emissions controls. The engine tended to run cool, but cleaner emissions demanded a hotter-running engine, and the slant six just didn't like that. FWIW, Pontiac had a similar problem with their V-8 engines, and they never did get them right. I heard that in 1977, California banned Pontiac V-8's in new cars. Dunno if the slant six ever got banned, though.   Oh, and whenever they started putting Lean Burn on the slant six, that certainly didn't help, either! I think that was 1975, but I could be wrong. My grandparents had a '75 Dart Swinger, and swore it was the worst car they ever owned! It would stall out randomly, and the dealer never could get it fixed right.   Also at some point, I think they went to either an aluminum exhaust manifold, or just a really cheaply cast metal one. It tended to crack, right in the middle. That may have been later than 1976, though. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 12, 2009 9:14 am) fintail (Jan 12, 2009 12:37 pm)
#16395 of 19346 Re: Craigslist [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 12, 2009 (9:14 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 12, 2009 8:54 am) That's true. The Slant 6 was a very cold-blooded engine, which accounts for the fact that most of them get very sludged up, which accounts for the fact that most have blow-by and burn oil. ON the other hand, all that sludge doesn't seem to have stopped them very often. They are such simple, almost agricultural engines, that they seem to just plug along no matter what.   Sturdiness is next to godliness. Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 12, 2009 12:37 pm)
#16397 of 19346 Why Just Buy One? by lemko Jan 12, 2009 (12:23 pm)
Here's a whole car museum for sale:   Car Museum Owner Looks for Buyer Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 12, 2009 12:38 pm) boomchek (Jan 12, 2009 12:43 pm) berri (Jan 12, 2009 2:08 pm)
#16398 of 19346 Re: Craigslist [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail Jan 12, 2009 (12:37 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 12, 2009 9:14 am) Over time I have developed a respect for the old Valiant/Dart series and their derivatives. They are kind of as close as the big 3 got to making something along the lines of a sturdy diesel MB. They have a simple engine capable of going long distances with abuse and neglect, they have styling that was usually simple and homogeneous, they were practical and didn't make any false pretenses. They were a decent effort for the time, all things considered.
#16399 of 19346 Re: Why Just Buy One? [lemko] by fintail Jan 12, 2009 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 12:23 pm) That's an interesting idea, focused around a particular year or timeframe...but he better have a lot of cars to justify 17M. Maybe if there are some 57 Ferraris, 300SLs etc lurking around.
#16400 of 19346 Re: Why Just Buy One? [lemko] by boomchek Jan 12, 2009 (12:43 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 12:23 pm) Nice. Not sure if he'll get that kinda $$ for it like someone wrote in the article. I like car museums.   Speaking of that actually, Shifty, you're from San Francisco correct?   Any car related museums or things to see there? Wife and I are taking a small vacation by driving down there for about a week in February. I always like to catch some automobilia related places when in a different city.
#16401 of 19346 Re: Why Just Buy One? [lemko] by berri Jan 12, 2009 (2:08 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 12:23 pm) I was fortunate enough to see this last year in Branson. What a great place. The collection is not just convertibles and coupes, also sedans, wagons and pickup trucks along with a lot of memorabilia. Don't know if its still open. I think its hard to finance car museums any more.
#16402 of 19346 . by fintail Jan 12, 2009 (3:26 pm)
Not a project, but maybe a good car to drive for the money...wheels are wrong, but it's a very rare (maybe not excellent) color. These cars are a nice amount of bang for the buck. Replies to this message: texases (Jan 12, 2009 3:28 pm) xwesx (Jan 12, 2009 5:31 pm) texases (Jan 12, 2009 5:56 pm) fintail (Jan 12, 2009 5:57 pm) xwesx (Jan 13, 2009 9:19 am) and 2 more... qbrozen (Jan 13, 2009 9:38 am) fintail (Jan 13, 2009 10:05 am) Mr_Shiftright (Jan 13, 2009 10:11 am) qbrozen (Jan 13, 2009 10:32 am) and 6 more...
#16403 of 19346 Re: . [fintail] by texases Jan 12, 2009 (3:28 pm)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 12, 2009 3:26 pm) That E55 would be fun, what's the mpt (miles per ticket)?

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