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#16390 of 19346 Re: Craigslist [bumpy] by boomchek Jan 10, 2009 (11:14 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Jan 10, 2009 5:34 am) That Dodge is the same as the one used in the movie Duel. I've been starting to like them recently. Thye're cheap and simple. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jan 10, 2009 1:05 pm)
#16391 of 19346 Re: Craigslist [boomchek] by explorerx4 Jan 10, 2009 (1:05 pm)
Replying to: boomchek (Jan 10, 2009 11:14 am) hah! i beat andre to it. the car in Duel was a plymouth valiant signet. i typed viliant by mistake(i think) the first time.
#16392 of 19346 DO NOT TRY AND LOW BALL ME B/C I KNOW WHAT THE CAR IS WORTH! by gsemike Jan 11, 2009 (9:47 pm)
Really Wes. Educate us how about how much it's worth.   What is a mint Eldo convertible of that vitage, 10 grand amd he's advertising no mice???? Call the junkyard Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 12, 2009 8:04 am)
#16393 of 19346 Re: DO NOT TRY AND LOW BALL ME B/C I KNOW WHAT THE CAR IS WORTH! [gsemike] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 12, 2009 (8:04 am)
Replying to: gsemike (Jan 11, 2009 9:47 pm) Yeah about 10,000 bucks for a clean driver 85 Eldo convertible, and maybe $15,000 for a show car. So given the condition of this car, and what you'd have to put into it, it is actually worth.......nothing. Well okay if you brought it to the yard, maybe $35.   I'd say Acme Auto Wrecking, hence to crusher, then by rail to New York harbor, then to Turkey, then to a tourist teapot factory.   Harsh you say? Well he's the one who destroyed it, so let him suffer the consequences, not the innocent buying public.
#16394 of 19346 Re: Craigslist [lokki] by andre1969 Jan 12, 2009 (8:54 am)
Replying to: lokki (Jan 10, 2009 7:11 am) And on the Dart, I think by 76 they'd stripped out all the things that made a slant six such a great engine.... like most of the bearings. Is it not so, Andre?   I dunno about bearings, but I heard that at some point in the 1970's, Mopar went from a forged crankshaft to a cast crankshaft in their engines, and that made them less durable than before. The main issue with the slant six is that it adapted very poorly to emissions controls. The engine tended to run cool, but cleaner emissions demanded a hotter-running engine, and the slant six just didn't like that. FWIW, Pontiac had a similar problem with their V-8 engines, and they never did get them right. I heard that in 1977, California banned Pontiac V-8's in new cars. Dunno if the slant six ever got banned, though.   Oh, and whenever they started putting Lean Burn on the slant six, that certainly didn't help, either! I think that was 1975, but I could be wrong. My grandparents had a '75 Dart Swinger, and swore it was the worst car they ever owned! It would stall out randomly, and the dealer never could get it fixed right.   Also at some point, I think they went to either an aluminum exhaust manifold, or just a really cheaply cast metal one. It tended to crack, right in the middle. That may have been later than 1976, though. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 12, 2009 9:14 am) fintail (Jan 12, 2009 12:37 pm)
#16395 of 19346 Re: Craigslist [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 12, 2009 (9:14 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 12, 2009 8:54 am) That's true. The Slant 6 was a very cold-blooded engine, which accounts for the fact that most of them get very sludged up, which accounts for the fact that most have blow-by and burn oil. ON the other hand, all that sludge doesn't seem to have stopped them very often. They are such simple, almost agricultural engines, that they seem to just plug along no matter what.   Sturdiness is next to godliness. Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 12, 2009 12:37 pm)
#16397 of 19346 Why Just Buy One? by lemko Jan 12, 2009 (12:23 pm)
Here's a whole car museum for sale:   Car Museum Owner Looks for Buyer Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 12, 2009 12:38 pm) boomchek (Jan 12, 2009 12:43 pm) berri (Jan 12, 2009 2:08 pm)
#16398 of 19346 Re: Craigslist [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail Jan 12, 2009 (12:37 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 12, 2009 9:14 am) Over time I have developed a respect for the old Valiant/Dart series and their derivatives. They are kind of as close as the big 3 got to making something along the lines of a sturdy diesel MB. They have a simple engine capable of going long distances with abuse and neglect, they have styling that was usually simple and homogeneous, they were practical and didn't make any false pretenses. They were a decent effort for the time, all things considered.
#16399 of 19346 Re: Why Just Buy One? [lemko] by fintail Jan 12, 2009 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 12:23 pm) That's an interesting idea, focused around a particular year or timeframe...but he better have a lot of cars to justify 17M. Maybe if there are some 57 Ferraris, 300SLs etc lurking around.

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