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Re: 5 things you never knew about MR2s [qbrozen] by explorerx4
Jan 09, 2009 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 09, 2009 10:25 am)

just write the seller that you would want to do the same thing for insurance coverage and what company is that?
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Craigslist by bumpy
Jan 10, 2009 (5:34 am)
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This in no way, shape, or form, can be considered a "luxury car".
 
Aside from the vinyl, I think this is the same interior.
 
I wonder if the surfboard has the wreath & crest on it.
 
Last of the andremobiles.
 
A fitting end for malaise-era luxury.
 
Let's complete the trifecta.
 
I forget, was the turbo a portent of doom in these?
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Craigslist (bumpy) by hpmctorque
Jan 10, 2009 (6:32 am)
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True, the '99 LeSabre isn't a luxury car, but unless I missed it, the seller makes no claim regarding luxury.
 
The Dodge Dart sedan, on the other hand, is clearly not a classic, as the seller claims it is.
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Re: Craigslist [bumpy] by lokki
Jan 10, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 10, 2009 5:34 am)

Luxury Le Sabre..... I think what you mean is that if Buick is supposed to represent luxury, it's either not a Buick or Buick doesn't represent luxury. A sad use of the Le Sabre name.
 
As for the rest, you've certainly reminded me of what a sad time the end of the 70's were.
 
I do have to say, though, that I always kind of liked the Nova based Seville.... at least it wasn't FWD and looked (to my eyes) a lot better than the rest of the Caddy family in those days.
 
And on the Dart, I think by 76 they'd stripped out all the things that made a slant six such a great engine.... like most of the bearings. Is it not so, Andre?
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Re: Craigslist [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 10, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 10, 2009 5:34 am)

90 volvo turbo -- like all turbo cars of that era, they were more fragile than their NA counterparts. I think higher engine temperatures caused by turbo power were not as well dealt with as they are today.
 
79 Seville -- well at least we know that 30 years doesn't make one of these valuable. Maybe 50?
 
Ah, the late 70s. Now you know why wrecking yards don't want to keep these cars for people---no profit in them.
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Re: Craigslist [bumpy] by boomchek
Jan 10, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 10, 2009 5:34 am)

That Dodge is the same as the one used in the movie Duel. I've been starting to like them recently. Thye're cheap and simple.
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Re: Craigslist [boomchek] by explorerx4
Jan 10, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jan 10, 2009 11:14 am)

hah! i beat andre to it. the car in Duel was a plymouth valiant signet.
i typed viliant by mistake(i think) the first time.
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DO NOT TRY AND LOW BALL ME B/C I KNOW WHAT THE CAR IS WORTH! by gsemike
Jan 11, 2009 (9:47 pm)
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Really Wes. Educate us how about how much it's worth.
 
What is a mint Eldo convertible of that vitage, 10 grand amd he's advertising no mice???? Call the junkyard
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Re: DO NOT TRY AND LOW BALL ME B/C I KNOW WHAT THE CAR IS WORTH! [gsemike] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 12, 2009 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: gsemike (Jan 11, 2009 9:47 pm)

Yeah about 10,000 bucks for a clean driver 85 Eldo convertible, and maybe $15,000 for a show car. So given the condition of this car, and what you'd have to put into it, it is actually worth.......nothing. Well okay if you brought it to the yard, maybe $35.
 
I'd say Acme Auto Wrecking, hence to crusher, then by rail to New York harbor, then to Turkey, then to a tourist teapot factory.
 
Harsh you say? Well he's the one who destroyed it, so let him suffer the consequences, not the innocent buying public.
 
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Re: Craigslist [lokki] by andre1969
Jan 12, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Jan 10, 2009 7:11 am)

And on the Dart, I think by 76 they'd stripped out all the things that made a slant six such a great engine.... like most of the bearings. Is it not so, Andre?
 
I dunno about bearings, but I heard that at some point in the 1970's, Mopar went from a forged crankshaft to a cast crankshaft in their engines, and that made them less durable than before. The main issue with the slant six is that it adapted very poorly to emissions controls. The engine tended to run cool, but cleaner emissions demanded a hotter-running engine, and the slant six just didn't like that. FWIW, Pontiac had a similar problem with their V-8 engines, and they never did get them right. I heard that in 1977, California banned Pontiac V-8's in new cars. Dunno if the slant six ever got banned, though.
 
Oh, and whenever they started putting Lean Burn on the slant six, that certainly didn't help, either! I think that was 1975, but I could be wrong. My grandparents had a '75 Dart Swinger, and swore it was the worst car they ever owned! It would stall out randomly, and the dealer never could get it fixed right.
 
Also at some point, I think they went to either an aluminum exhaust manifold, or just a really cheaply cast metal one. It tended to crack, right in the middle. That may have been later than 1976, though.

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