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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 04, 2009 10:47 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 04, 2009 2:17 pm) 
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 04, 2009 4:11 pm) Got another trade offer - a '95 M3 (in yellow) and a Sea Doo Jet Boat. I have no other details, but if the M3 was in excellent condition I might be tempted.
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 05, 2009 6:05 am) I hate sea doos. Just thought I'd mention that. The only problem with M3s is that what was "performance" back then may not be worth the extra hassle today. I can't say as I've found, in my somewhat limited experience, that M3s are cared for with the same diligence afforded most 911s. Exceptions abound, of course.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 8:43 am)
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Would you consider Alfa Spiders or Mercedes 560SLs to be "high effort" cars to drive, like older 911s? I've driven examples of both and I found them to require some extra effort because of the non-power steering and the heavy feeling, respectively, in the Alfa and Benz. The SL, I discovered, did not like to be pushed hard around the corners, like my friend's Miata does.
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Replying to: jrosasmc (Jan 05, 2009 9:14 am) The Alfa does require effort, although I think, unlike most cars, that effort gets easier at higher speeds ... to a point. Obviously, once you pass the point of traction, you are in the weeds quicker than you can blink. In other words, it has a sweet spot (IMHO) where it is a rather "easy" car to drive. |
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 05, 2009 9:12 am) RE: "High Effort" cars. No I think the 560SL is easy to drive...you just put it in drive and point it, no muss, no fuss. The Alfa Spider could require more effort as most of them do not have power steering--so the modern wider tires make them heavy at slow speeds or when parking, and the gearshift will inevitably grind into 2nd gear up or down.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:21 am) just a note. dunno if I mentioned it before or not. Mine would grind only if trying to drive it like a modern manual. If I took my time shifting or, better yet, double-clutched, there was no grind. However, not too long before selling it, I switched the trans to Royal Purple synthetic trans fluid (claimed to be designed specifically for manual trans cars that require auto trans fluid - as the Alfa does). I was amazed at how much it improved the shifting. I really COULD drive it like a modern manual and get zero grinding. Great stuff!
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 05, 2009 9:30 am) Some people tell me they can adapt Porsche synchros into the Alfa transmission and the problem is gone forever. I got very good at double-clutching and downshifting, so it never bothered me, but that does make things "high effort" for many people. It's hard for people to believe, but Alfas are very reliable cars if you simply maintain them. I drove mine all over god's good earth and never ever broke down. One time I had a weak battery but even then I push started it MYSELF (pushed and jumped in). Another time I shed a fan blade (the "yellow fan of death") but I got home okay.
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