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Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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Re: trade time [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 04, 2009 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 04, 2009 7:00 am)

Performance is quite adequate, but it's not going to push you back in the seat.
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Re: trade time [qbrozen] by lemmer
Jan 04, 2009 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 04, 2009 6:48 am)

It has been about 4 months, which isn't a completely unreasonable length of time for me. The short story is that I can't seem to get the wife on board with the 911. She'd rather have a Boxster - not that she will get one, but that is what she wishes I had purchased instead of the 911. I think I need to buy something that has room for the kids' seats before I purchase another sports car in any case.
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Re: trade time [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 04, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 04, 2009 10:28 am)

I think we spoke about how rarely one sees a woman driving a 911 and how often we see them in Boxsters. Part of that could be the differential in income but I suspect it's other things as well.
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Re: trade time [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Jan 04, 2009 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 04, 2009 10:47 am)

Ok, bring on the jokes about buying leather purses to match a Boxster's seats, etc. I do still have the 944, and for some reason my wife and my two little girls prefer it to the 911. My wife says she feels like Molly Ringwald in "16 Candles" when we go out in it.
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Re: trade time [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 04, 2009 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 04, 2009 2:17 pm)

The 911 is what I call a "high effort" car to drive. A Boxster you can drive with your pinkie of your left hand and your tea cup finger and thumb on the gearshift.
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Re: trade time [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Jan 05, 2009 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 04, 2009 4:11 pm)

Well that kind of response is certainly not going to help my cause with the wife. That is exactly why she prefers the Boxster over the 911.
 
Got another trade offer - a '95 M3 (in yellow) and a Sea Doo Jet Boat. I have no other details, but if the M3 was in excellent condition I might be tempted.
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Re: trade time [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 05, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 05, 2009 6:05 am)

Well I do understand your wife's position here. It is not MY position, but it is not irrational.
 
I hate sea doos. Just thought I'd mention that.
 
The only problem with M3s is that what was "performance" back then may not be worth the extra hassle today. I can't say as I've found, in my somewhat limited experience, that M3s are cared for with the same diligence afforded most 911s.
 
Exceptions abound, of course.
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Re: trade time [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Jan 05, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 8:43 am)

I still really like that C4 Vette that I posted earlier, but I don't think I can talk my wife into it. How much do you think it is worth?
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Shifty: by jrosasmc
Jan 05, 2009 (9:14 am)
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Would you consider Alfa Spiders or Mercedes 560SLs to be "high effort" cars to drive, like older 911s? I've driven examples of both and I found them to require some extra effort because of the non-power steering and the heavy feeling, respectively, in the Alfa and Benz. The SL, I discovered, did not like to be pushed hard around the corners, like my friend's Miata does.
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Re: Shifty: [jrosasmc] by qbrozen
Jan 05, 2009 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: jrosasmc (Jan 05, 2009 9:14 am)

I wouldn't call the SL high effort unless you are actually trying to drive it like a sportscar. It ain't a sportscar.
 
The Alfa does require effort, although I think, unlike most cars, that effort gets easier at higher speeds ... to a point. Obviously, once you pass the point of traction, you are in the weeds quicker than you can blink. In other words, it has a sweet spot (IMHO) where it is a rather "easy" car to drive.

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