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Re: Great! [andre1969] by uplanderguy
Dec 27, 2008 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 23, 2008 12:45 pm)

I like those first Barracudas, but Andre, you can't like those '67-'69's with the tiny little coupe roofline, do you?
 
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Re: Take the Andre / Gus Challenge!!! [uplanderguy] by uplanderguy
Dec 27, 2008 (3:05 am)
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Dec 26, 2008 2:20 pm)

Now that I look at the photo of that teal-colored Studebaker Scotsman again, the guy obviously grafted a set of fins from something else onto the car. Scotsmans never got big fins in the slightest--just the basic '57 Stude taillight pod with a simple round taillight in the middle.
 
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Re: Great! [uplanderguy] by uplanderguy
Dec 27, 2008 (3:10 am)
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Dec 27, 2008 3:02 am)

Speaking of small rooflines, I'm a GM guy most of my life (gotta change my handle from 'uplanderguy', which I used on a whim only to post on the Uplander forum not long after I got it), but as handsome as the 1971 redesign of the Chevrolet Impala was, in my opinion, I do not like at all the 'Sport Coupe' iteration...a huge car with an undersized roof. Anybody else agree? This is a fun exercise.
 
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Re: I don't know [andre1969] by uplanderguy
Dec 27, 2008 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 23, 2008 12:27 pm)

I think the concept and features were great ones on the X-cars, but I think that's about the start of GM's problems that exist 'til today...execution.
 
I remember seeing ads of a new '80 Citation Club Coupe, the bodystyle you almost never saw, in X-11 trim, silver with red striping. It was sharp then, and its styling would still hold up today. And it had a roomy interior (even back seat) for its exterior styling.
 
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Re: I don't know [uplanderguy] by lokki
Dec 27, 2008 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Dec 27, 2008 3:20 am)


 
Her's a picture of your X-11, Uplander. I agree it's a clean design. I have to say, though, that I was "in hate" with all almost all the American Cars of that era.
 
My first company car was a K car.... I tore a couple of shirts on the unfinished edge of the door frame before I beat it flat with a hammer. It would stall at lights if the AC was on... even after I made them replace the compressor.
 
Then I had a beige Citation.... not really a bad car solid and reliable but talk about Soviet-style practicality.... And I hated the Jimmy Carter's Democratic Big-Brother- knows-what's-good-for-you mandated 85 MPH max speedometer. I once had to fly to the airport to pick up an unexpected VIP visitor....and for some reason it bothered me not to know exactly how much the speeding ticket was going to cost.
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Re: I don't know (uplanderguy) by hpmctorque
Dec 27, 2008 (6:54 am)
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I agree with you on GM X-cars. If only they had been reliable and durable their legacy would have been very different. Also, GM wouldn't need a bailout today if the Vega had been an exception rather than the beginning in a long line of failed models.
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Re: I don't know (lokki) by hpmctorque
Dec 27, 2008 (7:01 am)
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"...not really a bad car solid and reliable..."
 
It's interesting that your Citation was reliable. Ours had some solid attributes (roomy, with good handling and performance for its day, for example), but reliability wasn't one of them. How many miles did your Citation have when you got rid of it?
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Re: I don't know [lokki] by uplanderguy
Dec 27, 2008 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Dec 27, 2008 6:46 am)

That's an '81 or later X11. The '80 didn't have the huge graphic, but had a stripe running down the side there, and chrome wheel opening moldings. The Club Coupe body style was somewhat of a notchback design, with a separate trunk, too. You hardly ever saw them.
 
I gave serious consideration to buying a new '85 Citation II X11 but ordered a Celebrity Eurosport two-door with the MPI V6 instead. I knew they were going to be discontinued and would take a hit on resale value. The X11 was essentially the same car mechanically but was cheaper to buy and could be had with a stick shift, unlike the V6 Celebrity. Sort-of wish I had bought one. The '85 Citation II had a one-year only dash design that was an improvement on the '80-'84, IMHO.
 
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Re: I don't know (lokki) [hpmctorque] by lokki
Dec 27, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 27, 2008 7:01 am)

It's interesting that your Citation was reliable. Ours had some solid attributes (roomy, with good handling and performance for its day, for example), but reliability wasn't one of them. How many miles did your Citation have when you got rid of it?
 
Ahhhh.... I didn't OWN it.... it was a company car... so I didn't even do the maintenance. I had it for a year... maybe 5 or 6 k miles only since I only used it at my office. I guess reliable is a relative term.. I never had anything give me a problem while I was drving it... not true in the !#%!% K-car.
 
That was a noisy, rough, slapped together POS. It was dying lemon yellow too.
 
The Citation was a lot better ride in comparison.
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Re: Great! [uplanderguy] by lemko
Dec 27, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Dec 27, 2008 3:10 am)

Didn't the Sport Coupe have a concave rear window? My Uncle Daniel had a really nice dark blue 1970 Chevrolet Impala Custom that had the concave rear window. I really like the front end of the 1971 Chevrolet Impala/Caprice because it resembles a 1969-70 Cadillac.

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