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19416 messages, Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 1:49 PM
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 23, 2008 2:08 pm) Actually I was thinking of the "regular" Packards, like this:  Other than those stuck-on headlights, I don't find the car too horrible. At a quick glance, it looks like a pygmy 1958 DeSoto to me, which might be one reason why I'm lenient towards it. If they could have integrated the headlights better, I think it would've been okay. As for the Packard Hawk, I think that front-end is hideous, but the rest of the car is just a Studebaker Hawk, and I think those are gorgeous. So with the Packard Hawk, I only see one nasty component, the front-end. But with the '57 Mercury, I see a whole lot that I don't like, and then the quad headlights are just the final nail in its coffin.
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Replying to: lokki (Dec 22, 2008 1:45 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 23, 2008 2:28 pm)  
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 23, 2008 2:08 pm) You can see the ugliness of that Mercury but you find a '58 Packard-baker not too bad? I just thought of something, that might provide a little insight into how my little mind works. I can find a car to be ugly, yet still like it. It really takes a lot for me to HATE a car. I had a 1969 Bonneville 4-door hardtop, in an awful greenish-gold color with a coordinated vinyl interior. It was pretty ugly, and a nasty color, but I still liked it. Mainly I thought it was just ugly up front. From the sides and rear, it looked pretty nice and sleek, I thought. It also had a black vinyl roof, which helped tone down that awful body color. I also had a 1967 Newport 2-door hardtop that was kinda ugly. It was a very pale yellow, with a black fabric/vinyl interior, and no vinyl on the roof. I didn't really like it, but didn't hate it, either. It was kind of blunt and clumsy looking up front, and I didn't like the way that Barracuda-ish roofline worked on this car. I kinda liked it from the rear, but one thing about the taillights bugged me. They were divided into three sections, in an attempt to give the car a more prestigious look, I guess. But there was only one bulb in there, to illuminate all three sections! Kinda like a 60's Mustang. Now I could tolerate that on a cheap car, but not on something more upscale like a Newport!
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Replying to: boomchek (Dec 23, 2008 11:30 am) That thing (what is it by the way?) is absolutely the ugliest automobile I have ever seen, hands down.
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 23, 2008 6:46 pm) Is the puddle underneath the Vega wagon coolant or oil? Both, mixed, of course!  Andre - You have a VERY interesting mind..... |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 24, 2008 5:57 am) I guess I feel the need to defend talent in auto design and to not give any further energy to designers who are lazy or incompetent. I suppose this is what a "critic" does, whether it be fashion or movies or whatever. If there were not some basic principles of design, then there would be no schools of design. We've all seen the dangers of a lack of basic schooling in design when we view certain houses designed by their owners. (or some kit car designers).
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Read the description and then look at the pictures. Why doesn't the seller see the same car we do? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/968162026.html Let's see. New top $800; bodywork as shown $1500--$2000; upholstery $350; tire $75; smog cert $80. Value of Miata as it sits? About $100.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 24, 2008 9:13 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 24, 2008 9:17 am) He sees a "rip" in the driver's seat. I see the results of a grenade being set off in the interior He sees a "dent" I see a smashed fender, possible damaged hood, front strut, and passenger door jamb. Picky, picky, picky.
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