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Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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Re: More Craigslist [bumpy] by xwesx
Nov 26, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 26, 2008 4:14 pm)

Wow. That Fairlane is cherry.
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Re: More Craigslist [bumpy] by fintail
Nov 26, 2008 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 26, 2008 4:14 pm)

That poor Buick
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Re: More Craigslist [xwesx] by oregonboy
Nov 26, 2008 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Nov 26, 2008 5:32 pm)

The painted-over-the-chrome bumpers on the Fairlane look funny to me. How well is paint goint to stick on chrome, I wonder?
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Re: More Craigslist [oregonboy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 27, 2008 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Nov 26, 2008 9:26 pm)

Paint doesn't stick on chrome.
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Re: Contestant # 1: A 1954 Plymouth Savoy [Mr_Shiftright] by papasam1
Nov 27, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 13, 2004 5:48 pm)

When looking for a project car the price is only a small part of weather or not to buy the car. What I feel about the car is it's more important, is the car in your blood or just something to do. So for a 1000.00 is this your car, if so buy it even if it's 2000.00. FOR THE LOVE OF THEM
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Re: Contestant # 1: A 1954 Plymouth Savoy [papasam1] by andre1969
Nov 28, 2008 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: papasam1 (Nov 27, 2008 8:02 pm)

When looking for a project car the price is only a small part of weather or not to buy the car. What I feel about the car is it's more important, is the car in your blood or just something to do. So for a 1000.00 is this your car, if so buy it even if it's 2000.00. FOR THE LOVE OF THEM
 
I think it depends. For instance, with that '54 Plymouth Savoy that kicked off this topic, if somebody really had a fetish for those things, and was very handy and could do most of the work themselves, and intended to keep the thing for a long time rather than turn a profit, then maybe, just maybe, that car might be the car of their dreams.
 
I have a feeling that most people who would want a '54 Plymouth though, are going to want the hardtop or convertible. Those are probably worth restoring. But something like a 2- or 4-door sedan, I have a feeling that if somebody really has the burning desire for one of those, they'll just pay the $5-6K or whatever for a nice, well-preserved one, rather than buy something that needs a total restoration, sink $20K or more into it, only to end up with something that's still only worth $5-6K.
 
I agree, it's not only about the money, but you still have to keep some perspective. And no need to pay any more than what the thing is truly worth.
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Re: Contestant # 1: A 1954 Plymouth Savoy [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 28, 2008 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 28, 2008 5:49 am)

Paying more than the car is worth merely takes away from your restoration budget, and to no good purpose. This is especially true of common cars like 60s Mustangs, where there are so many to choose from and the market value is so well know. There's no excuse for paying more than market price for one of those.
 
if the car is extremely rare, say one of 100 or one of 500, you may have no choice but to pay the asking price, if you are really hot for that car.
 
Last of all, you have to look at the car's options/color/engine in order to decide what to pay. Is AC on a vintage car worth an extra 10%? Yep, probably is. Is the color red worth more than baby poop brown? Yes again. Is a 6 cylinder Mustang worth the same as a V8? No way.
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salvaged bimmer by qbrozen
Dec 02, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Trying to pin a value on this
 
I watched it the first time it was listed, and now its back to tempt me a 2nd time. What do you folks think its really worth?
 
I keep telling myself I don't want a convertible. Don't want the extra weight, nor do I care to drive with the top down very often. And if it will be my track car ... well, obvious reasons for no 'vert.
 
However, its a 325 manual tranny that maybe could be had cheap. SOOOOO... ??
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Re: salvaged bimmer [qbrozen] by srs_49
Dec 02, 2008 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 02, 2008 7:44 am)

Well, I paid $2500 for my '87 325 back in 1999 with 125,000 miles on it, so it was "only" 12 years old at the time, and I still drive it regularly. He's looking for $3100 for a car that's 2 years older than mine was.
 
The sellers says he has new leather seats (mine had cloth) and he's replaced the rack and pinion (something I had to do in 2005?), new sound system, and struts all 'round, so he has some money put into it. I wonder when the timing belt was changed out - do '94's still use the rubber one, like my '87?
 
One thing I would worry a bit about is how it's been driven. The seller says he's replaced the clutch, pressure plate, etc. I still have the original clutch in my '87, with around 188,000 miles on it, and they are pretty much bullet proof. So makes me wonder why the clutch replacement?
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Re: salvaged bimmer [srs_49] by qbrozen
Dec 02, 2008 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Dec 02, 2008 8:39 am)

I paid $3300 for my automatic '87 325i with 114k miles about 17 months ago. But I paid for condition (zero rust, even on undercarriage, all working electrics, new top, etc). Its tough to find decent ones.
 
The new leather is definitely a plus for me. Our current one could use it, but I don't want to spend the money. Its big bucks. Like you said, he's done alot of work, which is the only reason I'm considering. Ours also could use new bushings all around. But, again, just not willing to do that yet. I'm afraid my wife will tire of it any day now and I'd have spent the time and money for nothing.
 
188k miles on one clutch is rare. Very rare. Not only is it how its driven, but where its driven. If you are in bumper-to-bumper every day (for example), that's going to kill it, no matter how gentle you try to be.

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