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#15817 of 19403
Re: shifty [qbrozen] by bumpy
Nov 10, 2008 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 10, 2008 12:01 pm)

Yeah, it's all good and fun until the engine grenades on you.
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Re: shifty [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 10, 2008 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 10, 2008 3:54 pm)

I don't agree with those numbers at all. If they were true, my friend's Porsche operation would be rebuilding Boxster engines like crazy, but they aren't.
 
I think the issue is with early cars, and I think even 3-5% would be high.
 
I do agree, though, that Boxsters were not built like 911s. Half the price, half the mileage?
 
If you want a REAL Porsche engine problem, look at the 911 twin turbos. I'd bet serious money you won't see the far side of 60,000 miles without issues.
 
I'm also amused that people will track their cars and Drive to Win, but they won't "Spend to Win".
 
#15819 of 19403
Re: shifty [Mr_Shiftright] by bumpy
Nov 10, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 10, 2008 5:58 pm)

Well, aside from Nissan and Toyota, who has managed to build a highbrew twin-turbo that didn't blow up a lot?
#15820 of 19403
Re: shifty [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 10, 2008 (9:40 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 10, 2008 7:38 pm)

Certainly not Mazda!
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Re: shifty [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Nov 11, 2008 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 10, 2008 5:58 pm)

I've read a lot of stuff on the various Boxster engine issues. The general consensus seems to be once you make it past around 50,000 miles, you probably have a solid engine and you are home free.
#15822 of 19403
Re: shifty [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Nov 11, 2008 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 10, 2008 9:40 pm)

Back in the day, the 300ZX, Supra, and RX-7 were considered superior to the C4 Vette. I still like the Japanese cars better. But...if I needed 300 reliable and cheap hp - Supras go for $25K and the RX-7s are total hand grenades. The 300ZX TT is the best compromise, but to me the added complication and cost of the turbos makes the normally aspirated version a much better pick.
 
So, all of this gets me thinking about C4s. Good old American horsepower. No turbo lag, no trying to stay on boost, and an engine compartment that you can stick a wrench into if need be. More importantly, a replacement engine is cheaper than a turbo job on the Japanese cars. I'm not big on the interior or the Corvette image, but man these are a lot of car for the money.
#15823 of 19403
Re: shifty [lemmer] by texases
Nov 11, 2008 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Nov 11, 2008 6:15 am)

"you probably have a solid engine and you are home free."
 
Hahahahaha - "free"..."Porsche"
#15824 of 19403
Re: shifty [texases] by lemmer
Nov 11, 2008 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: texases (Nov 11, 2008 6:32 am)

OK, home free with $100 a month in normal maintenance expenses. But no new $12,000 crate engine required.
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Re: shifty [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 11, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Nov 11, 2008 6:40 am)

Actually I can get you a crate engine for about $9,000, a real bargain.
 
I'll call around and see if I can get the real scoop on these early Boxster engines.
#15826 of 19403
Re: shifty [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 11, 2008 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Nov 11, 2008 6:32 am)

C4s -- I was digging into this possibility myself some months ago, and yes, they are a lot of car for the money, but when you read up on build quality and reliability, you wonder if it's also a lot of money for the car. My overall impression after sifting through the evidence is that yes you can go fast for cheap but plan on breaking down a lot. On the other hand, you can get most of your parts at Autozone.

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