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Re: Vancouver beaters for under $1000 [boomchek] by andre1969
Nov 08, 2008 (10:49 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 08, 2008 4:44 pm)

I like that '77 LeMans, but I wish they'd list the engine. I mean, how hard is it to look under the hood and read the sticker? I guess it's possible the sticker's gone, though. The smallest V-8 these things had was an Olds 260, although the Pontiac 301 was much more common. I think they might have used Chevy engines, like the 305, in the Canadian models.
 
I kinda like that '82 Cordoba, too, although I wonder how bad that body damage is. I'm sure once you started tearing into it, it would be worse than it looks. I also don't relish the idea of driving around in something that size with a 90 hp slant six. This was one instance where you'd actually get better fuel economy with the bigger engine! The 318 had a 2.26:1 axle and enough power to move these cars. Not blindingly quick with 130 hp, obviously, but it didn't have to work very hard either. The 225 slant six was mated to a 2.94:1 axle though. Emissions controls tended to hurt its power and economy worse than they did with the V-8's.
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Re: Circling back To That '79 MB 300 SD... [Mr_Shiftright] (fintail) [hpmctorque] by fintail
Nov 09, 2008 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 08, 2008 10:24 am)

I'll say from what I can gather from the actions and words of passersby when I drive the fintail, it gets as much attention and admiration as a high end modern car. I doubt the average new Bentley driver gets many thumbs up, waves, kids pointing at it, etc. A mint W116 might not get that reaction, but it's still a classy looking old beast...even with the horrible US-spec bumpers.
 
I don't let valets park my car either...never had the chance come up in the fintail (I bet that car would confuse them or they'd injure it) and the E55 might tempt someone into at least chirping the tires.
 
I have questioned why I have this loyalty to MB, even though I don't buy them new. I like the styling, I like the heritage, I like how they feel when driven - there is some kind of dynamic links between old and new models, this was especially true in my fintail vs W126. I'd rather have a car that looks a little sinister than one that simply looks rich...and a MB sedan fits that too, thanks to Hollywood.
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Re: Vancouver beaters for under $1000 [fintail] by lemmer
Nov 10, 2008 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 08, 2008 7:18 pm)

The 4 car guy is an idiot of some kind.
 
Perfect comment. I am not sure what kind of idiot he is, but clearly he is some kind of idiot.
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Re: shifty [explorerx4 and bumpy] by qbrozen
Nov 10, 2008 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 07, 2008 5:46 pm)

see, now, I like the S2ks and the Z3s .... but THIS makes me drool.
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Re: shifty [qbrozen] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 10, 2008 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 10, 2008 12:01 pm)

Color's good, miles are good...but...it's not an S after all, so you'd best drive one to make SURE you don't mind....
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Re: shifty [Mr_Shiftright] by qbrozen
Nov 10, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 10, 2008 2:00 pm)

Right. Well, they didn't start the S until 2000, so any of those first few years only came as the "base" model.
 
The 2.5 still gets it to 60mph in about 6.5 secs. I don't suspect that will be much of a problem. The S model only shaved about .7 secs off of that. Handling-wise ... well, that can always be tweaked. I would imagine it would still spank my G35X around the track.
 
Interesting to note, however, that the 2000 base model got bumped to a 2.7 engine and lost ~30 lbs, yet, according to edmunds, didn't get any faster.
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Re: shifty [qbrozen] by bumpy
Nov 10, 2008 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 10, 2008 12:01 pm)

Yeah, it's all good and fun until the engine grenades on you.
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Re: shifty [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 10, 2008 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 10, 2008 3:54 pm)

I don't agree with those numbers at all. If they were true, my friend's Porsche operation would be rebuilding Boxster engines like crazy, but they aren't.
 
I think the issue is with early cars, and I think even 3-5% would be high.
 
I do agree, though, that Boxsters were not built like 911s. Half the price, half the mileage?
 
If you want a REAL Porsche engine problem, look at the 911 twin turbos. I'd bet serious money you won't see the far side of 60,000 miles without issues.
 
I'm also amused that people will track their cars and Drive to Win, but they won't "Spend to Win".
 
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Re: shifty [Mr_Shiftright] by bumpy
Nov 10, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 10, 2008 5:58 pm)

Well, aside from Nissan and Toyota, who has managed to build a highbrew twin-turbo that didn't blow up a lot?
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Re: shifty [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 10, 2008 (9:40 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 10, 2008 7:38 pm)

Certainly not Mazda!

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