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Re: shifty [bumpy] by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2008 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 07, 2008 3:11 pm)

Hell, bumpy, if I could find an S2000 for the price of a late 90s Z3(meaning under $10k), that would definitely be a good choice. I'm doubtful its possible, though.
 
According to Edmunds...
'00 S2k w/70k miles = $10,800 private party
'97 Z3 2.8 w/70k miles = $7800
'97 Boxster w/70k miles = $10,500
 
Although Edmunds says an S2k would come close, we all know how Honda people are.
 
But thanks for putting it in my head. I'll keep it in mind when and if the time comes.
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Re: shifty [qbrozen] by explorerx4
Nov 07, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2008 5:09 pm)

i saw an s2000 parked at a gas station last weekend with a for sale sign on it.
it looked pretty nice. i will take a fly by tomorrow to see if it is still there and get some info if it is. don''t get your hopes up.
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Re: . [boomchek] by fintail
Nov 07, 2008 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 07, 2008 12:53 pm)

Those things look pretty much like normal 15 year old used cars now, but with the steering wheel on the wrong side, and a goofy name here and there.
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its all about the photos by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2008 (8:15 pm)
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pics don't get much better than this
 
I just don't find this attractive
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q, shifty, etc. by michaell
Nov 07, 2008 (9:59 pm)
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Thanks for the feedback .. I knew I could count on you guys!
 
I think I'll use Shifty's update to the ad text.
 
As to the rust, I will admit that I didn't take a real close look at the fenderwells, firewall and other hard to see places. I do have a picture of the left taillight, where there was some surface rust:
 
See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com
 
The idea is that I would field and screen the phone calls, and those who were serious would get my MIL's name and phone number in Wyoming to set a time to see the vehicle.
 
Note - not that it matters much, but it wasn't my FIL who passed away, it was my MIL's husband. Wife's parents divorced when she was 16 and her mom remarried not long afterwards.
 
My FIL passed away almost 3 years ago - that's where we got the '92 Subaru Legacy wagon that was ultimately driven to California and given to my son as a graduation gift.
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Circling back To That '79 MB 300 SD... by hpmctorque
Nov 08, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Well, although there's no controversy over the fact that the '79 SD is heavy and substantial, we never really settled the matter of whether the SD is roomy. As if we hadn't already discussed the size, bulk and interior space to death, and at the risk of reigniting a contentious (although always civil) debate, did you know that the SD was not all that much roomier inside than a...a Honda Fit? No! YES!
  
Today's edition of The Wall Street Journal features an article (on W12) extolling the virtues of the '09 Fit. A caption over a picture of the car reads "Ridiculously Roomy -- A high roofline and wide opening doors contribute to the feeling that the Fit is larger than its compact dimensions." Just how large is ridiculously roomy? Ninety-one cubic feet large. Now that's not quite as much as the SD, with 96 cubes of space, but if 91 is ridiculously large, then 96 must be, what, outrageously large? I don't mean to start an argument over semantics here, but it may also mean there are no adjectives to adequately describe the interior space of one of the Detroit mastodons of the day. In the end, roomy may be relative -- as Einstein would say if he were participating in this intellectually challenging discussion...and I have no doubt that he'd be a participant in this discussion if he were still alive.
 
And, oh yeah, in a glaring omission, the WSJ article failed to mention whether the Fit's "high roofline" was sufficiently high to accommodate a Viking hat. Sorry, Shifty, but you might have to don that hat upon exiting one of those wide opening doors. I know it's not the same as wearing it while driving, but, hey, one must be willing to accept some tradeoffs for fuel economy.
 
Oh, did I mention fuel economy? The article pegs the EPA fuel economy for the '09 Fit at 27/33/29. Hmmm, I know of a nice '79 300 SD that can do that. Well, almost. But you can buy it for only a fraction of what it costs to drive that Fit out of the showroom. I'll leave it to you to decide the moral of this comparison, since I may not have enough morals to make the call.
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Re: Circling back To That '79 MB 300 SD... [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 08, 2008 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 08, 2008 6:28 am)

Buying an old high miles Mercedes is just another way of buying Honda Fit on time payments.
 
Remember it's not fair to compare an old car you will use as a "toy" with a new car you will use all day everyday. If you want to calculate the probable cost to own an old Benz diesel, you have to assume you're going to have to keep it in the condition necessary to drive at freeway speeds for 12,000 miles a year. That's a big difference from owning one as a vegetable oil experiment going 2,500 miles a year as a grocery getter.
 
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Re: Circling back To That '79 MB 300 SD... [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Nov 08, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 08, 2008 8:25 am)

I'd agree with that. If I had a frenzied 25 mile daily commute, I would easily choose the Fit over the old MB. But for something to putter around town in, or for a very short drive to work or for some laid back cruising, the MB would probably be more enjoyable. The old car is just too old to put into hard use without abusing it or asking for trouble. To keep that W116 in the condition it is in, you couldn't use it like you would a modern car.
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Re: Circling back To That '79 MB 300 SD... [Mr_Shiftright] (fintail) by hpmctorque
Nov 08, 2008 (10:24 am)
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My previous message is just a transcript of what went through my mind, as I read the article about the '09 Fit, and recalled the comments about the 30 year old Mercedes. For a brief moment I thought, hey, for around three large you can be surrounded by leather. And, although the parking attendant at a fancy restaurant might not park your '79 SD between the new Ferrari and the Bentley in front of the establishment, he might park it in the front row on the side, where the grille and the three pointed star are in full view, rather than in the back of the restaurant, next to the bushes. However, my rational mind soon prevailed, and I agree fully with what each of you said.
 
By the way, I rarely hand my keys over to a valet. I prefer to tip the valet and park my own car. Also, contrary to what might be inferred by this and my previous message, I'm not into status symbols. If I bought a MB, it would be for the driving experience, not the status.
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some hfd craigs by explorerx4
Nov 08, 2008 (11:25 am)
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wicked clean
 
how about 14WD?!
 
seats 9
 
classic 70's
 
seems cheap
 
crazy thing
 
too much hard cider before writing ad?
 
couldn't git er done
 
not as cool as the name
 
how much?
 
laser stripe and all
 
scout II
 
gram mobile
 
ad title: Dodge $950
 
this guy will never have his own show about towing
 
another saab story

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