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Replying to: michaell (Nov 07, 2008 2:28 pm) 1949 Willys-Overland Jeepster, 4cylinder, 3-speed manual trans. total 1949 production 2,960 cars. Asking price is $4,950 or b/o For sale from my late father in law's estate. It was a restoration in process. The vehicle has the 134 cubic inch inline 4 cylinder engine and a 3-speed manual transmission. Work done so far: • Major tuneup • Full brake overhaul • New battery, fuel pump, fuel lines and fuel tank • All 4 wheel bearings Vehicle runs well and the body is solid and decent. The vehicle is located in Cheyenne, WY, though I am fielding all calls to answer questions. Call Michael at xxx-xxx-xxxx. |
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Does anyone actually track a Z3? BMW 3 Series -- that's the problem exactly. The passenger is comfortable but the driver has a console digging into his calf and his left arm with no place to go.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2008 2:59 pm) Not at the events I've been to. Which is part of the appeal for me. I don't want to be one of a dozen Miatas. The Boxster would be semi-rare. Only 1 of those shows up on a regular basis, but we get 4 or 5 Porsches in total. |
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Replying to: michaell (Nov 07, 2008 2:28 pm) Although I'd add a bit more about rust, personally, as that is the key to such a vehicle for me. What is "decent shape"? How is the frame, firewall, wheelwells, etc. Not that you have to list what is OK, but if there are concerning spots, I'd like to know. I know some would disagree with me here, though. Let the buyer come and make the determination. Again, though, I just hate someone telling me "the body is in good shape" and I come and find out it needs 2 new fenders and new floors. |
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2008 10:56 am) Earlier S2000. Same price range, and it will smack around both of the above on the track and not break down on you going back home. 
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 07, 2008 10:08 am) But my attitude towards the Mark V runs sort of hot and cold. I love the icy blue '78 Diamond Jubilee that my friend has, but unless they're a nice, soothing shade of blue or the right shade of green, I lose interest. To me, the color can make or break these cars. That Bill Blass edition isn't too bad, but the midnight blue and white just seems too sharp of a contrast to me. I'd probably tolerate a Mopar R-body or '76 LeMans in just about any color, but I'm pickier with the Marks. Then there's just the issue of the size of the danged things! I think a Mark V is about 231" long...about 10" longer than my '79 NYers. While I do like big car, I think even I have my limits. If I ever get some big 70's mastodon, I think I want to go for a '71-75 GM convertible, my favorites being the '75 LeSabre, '72 Impala, and '71-72 LeSabre, in that order. Or a big 4-door hardtop, an Electra being my first choice, although I do like them all. And I do have to confess a fondness for the Toronado. I actually prefer the look of the '75-78 models with the rectangular headlights, although I miss the true hardtop styling that was offered in '71-74. And I guess a runner-up would be a big '74-78 C-body New Yorker/Imperial/Newport I really like the Plymouth Fury and Dodge Monaco 4-door hardtops of this generation, but they're almost impossible to find. They weren't popular to begin with, and were culled after 1975.. The style was popular in the Newport and New Yorker lines, but those cars were different enough from the Plymouths and Dodges that they didn't get much of an economy of scale. Even though they were all considered C-bodies, comparing the big Fury/Monaco to the Newport/New Yorker was like comparing an Impala to an Electra. Same basic underlying structure, but not much that was really interchangeable. |
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"...like comparing an Impala to an Electra. Same basic underlying structure..." Andre, are you sure this is true of the '71-76 GMs? I owned a '72 Olds 98 4 door hardtop, and while it was way too long ago for me to remember the source of my information, it's my understanding that the Impala/Caprice, Bonnevilles, 88s, and LeSabres shared a platform, while the 98s, Electras and Caddies were on a different, as well as larger platform. Now I wouldn't bet my life on the matter of two platforms vs. one, but this is the first I've heard of this. You used the term "structure." Is that synonymous or different from platform?
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 07, 2008 4:10 pm) As for the bodies that sat down on the frame, the Electra/98/DeVille shared the same body, the C-body, and the main difference over the B-body was 3 extra inches in the rear seat area, with correspondingly longer rear doors, more formal C-pillars, a longer roof, and rear quarter panels that were a bit more substantial than the B-body. The front seat area was the same though. You could probably swap the front doors between a LeSabre and Electra, for example. And the front-end clips were probably swappable too, although the Electra had a different grille. The Grand Ville was sort of an odd beast, though. They took the B-body, but tried to graft the more formal C-body C-pillar onto it, so it used a roof and rear door glass that was not quite the same as the C-body, but not quite the same as the B-body. For 1975, the Bonneville adopted the same roofline. The Grand Ville was not offered in 1976, but the Bonneville/Bonneville Brougham still used that same roof. Also, while an Electra/98/DeVille benefitted from an extra 3" of legroom in the back seat compared to a B-body, the Grand Ville did not. As for the term "structure", I guess I meant it in sort of generic way. GM would assign different designations to different cars, but sometimes the basic underlying structure, be it the frame, body, or both, would still have something in common. For example, even when these big cars downsized to FWD, the Electra/98/Deville was known as the C-body, while the LeSabre, 88, and Bonneville were known as the H-body. But they were still very similar cars. I'm also convinced that the 1971-78 Eldorado/Toronado, while FWD, are similar to the 1971-76 B- and C-body. While this may seem a stretch, as the Eldo/Toro are FWD, they still have their engines longitudinally-mounted. And if you look at a 1975-78 Toronado, its dashboard is identical to that of a '75-76 Delta 88/98. I think the Eldorado uses the same dash as the DeVilles and Fleetwoods did. So either they're ultimately based on the same design, or that's just one heck of a coincidence! Also, the Eldo/Toro and Riv did redesign for 1971, the same year as the big B/C bodies. I think that's an indication right there. |
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 07, 2008 3:11 pm) According to Edmunds... '00 S2k w/70k miles = $10,800 private party '97 Z3 2.8 w/70k miles = $7800 '97 Boxster w/70k miles = $10,500 Although Edmunds says an S2k would come close, we all know how Honda people are. But thanks for putting it in my head. I'll keep it in mind when and if the time comes.
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2008 5:09 pm) it looked pretty nice. i will take a fly by tomorrow to see if it is still there and get some info if it is. don''t get your hopes up.
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