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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Nov 07, 2008 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2008 8:24 am)

Having owned two of these, may I respectfully disagree about interior room? Perhaps it's not a Lincoln Mark V, but it is by no means a compact.
 
Sorry Shifty, but when compared to American cars, in 1979 that car was a compact. The EPA rates it at 96 cubic feet of interior volume, and 15 cubic feet of trunk space, for a combined total of 111 cubic feet. Now technically that makes it marginally a midsize (110-119 cubic feet combined) and once the EPA started rating interior volume, in 1978, it turns out that many cars marketed as compacts actually WERE midsized (Aspen/Volare, Diplomat/LeBaron, Fairmont/Zephyr). Some midsized cars were actually full-sized (1978 Fury/Monaco sedans, AMC Matador sedan). And some cars we'd think of as full-sized, like the Mark V, and possibly the Eldorado/Toronado, ended up being midsized according to the EPA!
 
No, the 1979 Benz S-class wasn't a Mark V when it comes to interior room. But the simple fact is that it wasn't even a Fairmont or Volare! Sure, it was a much more substantial car than any of those. And while it might have had good headroom and good legroom, you have to look at the big picture. It wasn't that wide inside, back seat legroom was non-existent, and that 15 cubic foot trunk was definitely compact, or the lower end of midsize.
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shifty by michaell
Nov 07, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Why can't you make a cable? Or is it 'I don't want to be bothered trying to make a cable?"
 
You talkin' to me?
 
I am probably the least mechanically inclined person who posts to this board.
 
Plus, the Jeepster is in Cheyenne and I'm 150 miles away.
 
The idea is to sell it to someone as-is - a restoration that was interrupted by illness.
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [Mr_Shiftright] by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2008 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2008 8:24 am)

How do you feel about the Boxster, shifty?
Good car? Reliable? Fun?
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [tjc78] by boomchek
Nov 07, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 07, 2008 5:14 am)

I think they moved the front seats ALL the way back.
 
Having a ton of brochures, in brochure photos you'd notice that in compact cars, they move the front seats all the way back, to show how much room is in the front.
 
For a rear seats photo of the same car, they move those front seats all the way forward, to show the amount of room in the back seat. This guy just forgot to move them forward a bit when taking the photos.
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [boomchek] by fintail
Nov 07, 2008 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 07, 2008 9:59 am)

That's exactly it, the seats are all the way back.
 
These cars were designed with a lot more room up front than behind, too. However, with the seat all the way back in one of those things, a 7 footer could probably drive it OK, so someone of average size would never have it back so far. That car is probably marginally larger than my fintail, and the fintail has a bit more legroom with the seat at a normal position. I used to cram 3-4 other guys in the car now and then when I used it as my everyday car in school, and everyone fit just fine.
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Re: shifty [michaell] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 07, 2008 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: michaell (Nov 07, 2008 9:27 am)

No, no Michaell, you posted that someone told you a cable could not be made. That's who I was referring to, sorry.
 
Andre -- my good man, statistics are statistics but having dwelt inside these cars for many miles, I can assure you they are incredibly spacious inside compared to say a Corolla, etc. Or to put it another way, if I were driving and you were a passenger, and I said to you 'what do you think of my new compact", you'd laugh at me.
 
BOXSTER -- very reliable car as a rule, yes. GREAT gas mileage, too.
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. by fintail
Nov 07, 2008 (10:08 am)
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A friend for Andre's NYers
 
Why spend 11K on a 116 when this photogenic old beast is still available
 
"exact replica"...maybe to a 5 year old. Is that truck wearing British plates?
 
Nothing could go wrong here
 
I bet this handles nicely
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Re: shifty [Mr_Shiftright] by texases
Nov 07, 2008 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2008 10:06 am)

I think a lot has to to with the high roof and upright seating on this vintage of car. A friend's dad bought a '79 528i, and I fit fine, front and rear. A 2009 (Uh-oh, 30 years later!) 528i seems no roomier, despite being much larger and, I'm sure, with larger interior volume.
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Re: shifty [texases] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 07, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: texases (Nov 07, 2008 10:09 am)

I agree with that. I can't even DRIVE a BMW 3 series. I hate 'em. No room for a big man. Zilch, zero, misery.
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Re: shifty [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Nov 07, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2008 10:12 am)

A C class is no better either. My C43 had my knees uncomfortably close to the dash, with about 1" of legroom in the back as I had to have the seat back almost all the way. Decent headroom, but the lower area was deficient. Go up one size though, and all is well.

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