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Re: '79 Mercedes [hpmctorque] by boomchek
Nov 06, 2008 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 06, 2008 2:32 pm)

Nice way of putting it, but i think the people looking for a bottom feeder do so because they want a NEW car, one they don't have to bother fixing for 5 years.
 
Those that want used luxury can find plenty of pre owned 90s E or S Classes, 5 or 7 series BMWs, Lexuses, Acuras, Infinitis, Jags, and pretty much most midsize sedans that have same features that that old Benz had (leather, sunroof, a/c, CD, power windows, and locks.
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Re: '79 Mercedes [boomchek] by texases
Nov 06, 2008 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 06, 2008 2:38 pm)

And I just can't put 'luxury' and 'smoke-spewing rattlebox' in the same sentence...at least that's the impression I get following these old MB oilburners...
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Re: '79 Mercedes [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 06, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 06, 2008 2:32 pm)

The diesel Benz owner is asking about 4X over fair market price.
 
So if he thinks his '79 Benz oil burner is worth $11,000, then my friend's 1995 toyota Corolla is worth $16,000 and my 1997 Subaru Outback is worth $20,000.
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) by hpmctorque
Nov 06, 2008 (5:17 pm)
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Yeah, $2,700-$2,800 sounds more reasonable to me for a '79 than $11,000, even considering it's a large, low mileage, seemingly very well maintained MB. At that price it's appealing, with the idea that you'd get rid of it before you put any serious money into it.
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 06, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 06, 2008 5:17 pm)

Back in 1979, it was the rare large sedan that could deliver 25 mpg. Now, even a Corvette can do that, and many good size, fast sedans can get more than that.
 
Yeah, I'd say $3,000 is a fair price for it.
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [Mr_Shiftright] by boomchek
Nov 06, 2008 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 06, 2008 5:47 pm)

The seller might find some crazy yahoo who'll pay close to that, similar to the ebay auction on that 80s BMW 7 series that went up to $18k a few weeks ago.
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Nov 06, 2008 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 06, 2008 5:47 pm)

Back in 1979, it was the rare large sedan that could deliver 25 mpg. Now, even a Corvette can do that, and many good size, fast sedans can get more than that.
 
Back in 1979, nobody would have considered that Benz to be a large sedan. At least, nobody in America. It pretty much fell in range with the cars that were marketed as compacts at the time. The EPA rated it at 96 cubic feet of interior and 15 cubic feet of trunk. That put it ahead of the Granada/Monarch and AMC Concorde. It had the same interior space as a Nova (96) but a larger trunk (Nova only had 13 cubic feet). But the Fairmont/Zephyr, Aspen/Volare, and Diplomat/LeBaron were all larger, at least in 4-door form.
 
My '79 Newport, which had a 318-2bbl with a small throat and a tall 2.45:1 axle, would get around 22 on the highway. I wonder if there was any "true" full-sized car back then that could hit 25? The most efficient full-sized configurations I could find for 1978 (the EPA only listed combined numbers in 1979, but 1978 shows the city/highway cycles) were...
 
18/25: Olds Delta 88 with the 260 V-8
17/25: Pontiac Catalina/Buick LeSabre with the 231 V-6
17/24: Pontiac Catalina/Bonneville and Buick LeSabre with the 301 V-8
16/23: Olds Delta 88 with the 350 "Rocket" V-8.
 
Oh, and any full-sizer with the 350 Diesel was rated 21/30.
 
Those were the old fashioned, overly generous, raw laboratory numbers, though...the same ones that gave so many small cars in that era EPA ratings of 40+ and even 50 mpg.
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Nov 06, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 06, 2008 5:47 pm)

It's a diesel though, remember, that destroys the logic center of the brain.
 
People would line up to pay 5-6K for it, I have no doubt. Heck, if its as good as it looks, I'd pay 3K for it right now. A nice diesel W116 is uncommon anymore.
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Re: '79 Mercedes (Mr_Shiftright) [andre1969] by tjc78
Nov 07, 2008 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 06, 2008 6:19 pm)

Back in 1979, nobody would have considered that Benz to be a large sedan
 
I don't consider it large now (at least the interior). Look at the last pic of the back seat. There is no legroom at all. I would think a CamCord would have more room with the front seats all the way back.
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boxster by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2008 (5:56 am)
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Are these worth this little?
or is something amiss?
 
This blue is prettier, but twice the mileage.

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