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Opinions wanted by qbrozen
Nov 05, 2008 (9:56 am)
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'85 RX7
 
Seems to present fairly well. Although if the paint is only a year old, it doesn't shine very well. I love how the "options include manual trans and manual windows." What exactly did those options replace? no windows or trans at all?
 
Anyway ... as a track car project??
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. by fintail
Nov 05, 2008 (10:29 am)
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This can't be a good idea
 
Small "hemi"
 
Rare "lemo"
 
Land yacht
 
Lemko-mobile
 
Not a good idea either
 
Fancy beater
 
"who knows whats wrong"
 
"Does need some mechanical TLC" ...I bet
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Re: . [fintail] by stevedebi
Nov 05, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 05, 2008 10:29 am)

Biturbo:
 
"I also have a complete engine w/turbos and transmission and other misc. parts that can be negotiated if you are interested. "
 
Would those be the ones he just took out, or the ones that need to be put into the car?
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Re: . [stevedebi] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 05, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Nov 05, 2008 12:15 pm)

That's the spare/spare engine, that you exchange every oil change.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by lokki
Nov 05, 2008 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 05, 2008 12:57 pm)

That's the spare/spare engine, that you exchange every oil change.
 
Probably more often than that with those old Biturbos....
 
I think it's change your shorts; change your short block
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Re: . [fintail] by andre1969
Nov 06, 2008 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 05, 2008 10:29 am)

I kinda like that '53 DeSoto Firedome. It reminds me of the one my Granddad bought when I was a kid. Same body style, the 4-door, but it was a light seafoam green. As I got closer to driving age, I started setting my sights on it, but he sold the damn thing right about the time I got my learner's permit! He told me he didn't want me driving something that old because I'd bring it back to him to fix every time it broke down. But I did that anyway with the 1980 Malibu coupe I got from my Mom, so what's the difference?
 
That was back in 1986, when he sold it. The guy that bought it tried to jump start it with a 12 volt system, fried something, and then gave up on the car and pushed it to the edge of the woods in his back yard. I have cousins who live a few houses down, and in 1989 my Mom & stepdad moved about a mile away, so I'd drive by every once in awhile and still see it in the guy's back yard. It was there the last time I drove by, but that was a couple years ago. I've entertained the idea of trying to buy it back, but I hate to think of what 22 years sitting out in the yard would have done to it. It was rust-free when Granddad sold it, but I'm sure it isn't by now!
 
I've never heard of a Firedome "500" though. As far as I know, they just had the cheaper 6-cyl lineup called PowerMaster, and the uplevel V-8 called Firedome. Also, it's a minor nitpick, but that thing would have a 276.1 Hemi, not a 271 as the ad says. For some reason, Mopar listed some of their engine displacements down to the 10ths like that for a few years. I'm sure GM or Ford would've just called it a "276". They did that in '56 as well, with the 330.4 and the 341.1. For 1957 though, they just rounded off to 341.
 
That '79 Electra Limited looks like it's in really nice shape, from what I can tell in those pics. I know there's not exactly a huge demand for these things, but that price seems reasonable, as long as it checks out. Lemko, you up for a road trip?
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hmmm... by qbrozen
Nov 06, 2008 (9:00 am)
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no comments on that RX7, huh?
Well, that's ok. I thought about it and decided a 13B would be better, anyway. A carb is probably not the best idea for a track car.
 
Now this on the other hand ...
'82 280Z
 
But does is the year correct? Wiki seems to indicate '82 was the year for the slight redesign when all those scoops were added, which this car seems to be lacking.
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Re: hmmm... [qbrozen] by oregonboy
Nov 06, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 06, 2008 9:00 am)

That Z looks pretty good (for a ZX). But isn't it a 2+2, as indicated by the jog in the rear, side window? I would expect that a 2 seater would be lighter and more nimble (shorter wheelbase?) for track use.
 
PS: I liked the RX-7 better, although the red interior was a bit much. Did the RXs get heavier with the 13b series?
 
JRW
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Re: hmmm... [oregonboy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 06, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Nov 06, 2008 9:20 am)

280Z is kind of a porker.
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Re: hmmm... [oregonboy] by qbrozen
Nov 06, 2008 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Nov 06, 2008 9:20 am)

Well, as far as 1985 goes, the 12A and 13B were both offered. You could only get the 13B, however, by stepping up to the GSL-SE, which is exactly what my father had back in '85. So... was it heavier? Well, yeah, I guess it was. But only by as much as power windows, leather, and EFI components weigh.
 
The 2+2 Z is about 175 lbs heavier than the 2-seater. Looks like the wheelbase is about another 8 inches. As Shifty said, though, its a porker either way. Just over 2800 lbs for the 2-seater and just under 3k for the 2+2.

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