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Re: bored and browsing [lemko] by fortee9er
Mar 04, 2008 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 03, 2008 7:56 am)

I used to love those big 1960/70s american luxo-barges and owned four in the years betwween 1988 and 2006:
1966 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham - paid $200 gave to Salvation Army.
1972 Imperial - paid $200. Stolen by the guy where I was parking it.
1975 Buick Electra Ltd gift from friend sold for $1500.
1978 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz. paid $800 sold ten years later for $800.
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Re: bored and browsing [fortee9er] by andre1969
Mar 04, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: fortee9er (Mar 04, 2008 11:56 am)

What kind of condition was that '75 Electra in? Was it a 2-door or 4-door? The '75-76 Electra is another guilty pleasure I wouldn't mind owning an example of one day.
 
Those '69-73 Imperials with the hidden headlights were cool, too.
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Re: bored and browsing [andre1969] by lemko
Mar 04, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 04, 2008 12:09 pm)

Did you catch the article on the 1969-73 big Dodges in the latest edition of "Collectible Automobile?"
 
Isn't it true they forbid one from entering one of those 1969-73 Imperials in a demolition derby because they'd destroy just about any other make entered? I heard that 1971-76 full-size Chevrolets are excellent demo derby contenders, though I would never dream of entering such a beautiful car in such a destructive sport.
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Endangered 1970s Cars by lemko
Mar 04, 2008 (1:20 pm)
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I'm sure I'm not the only one disturbed by it, but doesn't it make you wince when they crush 1970s American cars in monster truck shows or destroy them in demo derbies? Shoot, I don't want to have to go to a museum to see a 1975 Buick Electra Limited someday.
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Re: bored and browsing [lemko] by fintail
Mar 04, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 04, 2008 1:17 pm)

Those clamshell wagons are an endangered species today thanks to demo derbies
 
I remember when I was a kid and I went to my first demo derby, this would have been in the mid 80s. I remember a lot of mid-late 60s material in it, and a 60 Caddy flat top sedan. Even then I was kind of shocked something like that was being ruined.
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Q by stickguy
Mar 04, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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that one actually looks pretty nice, and certainly is reasonable. Assuming, of course, there isn't anything klugy about it.
 
Icould live with that myself. Not qute sure what the kid would think about it! Just needs a set of alloys.
 
Now, too bad it is way up in Matawan. If it was close I would go look.
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Re: Q [stickguy] by qbrozen
Mar 05, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: stickguy (Mar 04, 2008 2:25 pm)

The more I thought about that wagon, the more I thought it may be a scam posting. I emailed the seller, so we'll see.
 
Remind me again where the heck you are located. I can't seem to remember.
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More CL by bumpy
Mar 05, 2008 (10:01 am)
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The wheels are worth more than the car.
 
Depreciation.
 
Probably has 6 billion miles, but it's a Honda.
 
Last of the lightweight sport coupes.
 
This one just screams Andremobile.
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Re: More CL [bumpy] by andre1969
Mar 05, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Mar 05, 2008 10:01 am)

I wonder if the engine in that '85 Grand Prix came out of an older car? The orange-red air cleaner throws me, and while the engine itself appears buried, it looks like there's a bit of orange-red peeking out from behind the a/c compressor. The V-8 in these cars was a Chevy 305-4bbl with 150 hp, but I think by that time, GM was painting them all black.
 
I kinda like it, but don't care for that two-toning. Or those little wanna-be 1973 GTO "NASA" hood scoops, or whatever they're supposed to be. And I'd rather see a set of Pontiac Rally 2's on that car than the Firebird wheels. And cars with bucket seats and a column shift always annoyed me.
 
But other than that I like it. For some reason, that style of Grand Prix never caught on in the way the Monte did, or especially the Regal and Cutlass Supreme. All personal luxury coupes took a serious hit for 1980. In 1981, GM re-skinned theirs, and sales saw a jump that year. However, by 1982 the Grand Prix was starting to flounder, and sales went downhill pretty fast. In contrast, I think the Regal, Cutlass, and Monte stayed strong through 1985 before tapering off.
 
Pontiac was starting to change their direction in 1982, going back to performance (or at least the suggestion of it), with new designs such as the Firebird/Trans Am, J2000 Sunbird, and 6000. Meanwhile, big cars were dropped entirely, and the Grand Prix and Bonneville-G (what had been the LeMans) were just sort of left to whither and die.
 
Considering that Pontiac was supposed to be the performance division, I was always surprised that they never got a high performance version of the Grand Prix, in the Grand National/Monte SS vein. There was the GP 2+2 for 1986-87, which sort of aped the Monte SS Aerocoupe, but it had clumsier styling with a bulkier rear window, and oddly misshapen front-end. And worse, it just used the regular 150 hp 305-4bbl, not the 180 hp unit from the Monte SS.
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Lincoln LS... by andre1969
Mar 05, 2008 (10:23 am)
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I dunno if this is an indication of just how far these have fallen from grace, but I saw one on Saturday, being used as a taxi cab! Almost hit it, in fact, because it had pulled off to the side of the parking lot, but then as I was just about to pass it, it suddenly pulled out in front of me, to turn around I guess, just begging me to t-bone it.

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