Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

Replying to: ghulet (Nov 06, 2009 4:36 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 06, 2009 4:07 pm)

Not sure what's rare about the 80's Toyota pickup. (SR-5? V6?). You can't swing a cat around here without hitting half a dozen of the things. (small town Oregon).

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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 07, 2009 9:52 am)

I think what surprised me is that the internals of the 22R were crafted much better than they had to be. I'm not sure what purpose it served, since American engines of that time were very crude and cheap by comparison, but generally lasted a long time in spite of abuse and neglect. The American engine might not always have RUN well, but rarely disintegrated. Sometimes cheap and tough is a good thing.

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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2009 10:04 am)

Rough and rugged. Unlike Italian or British cars - those disintegrated frequently or were they just very fragile

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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2009 10:47 am)

Exactly only in the US will someone spend 30,000 dollars on a new car then balk at paying a few hundred a year or less in maintenance.
 
I used to see that all the time at my shop.
 
Sir or madam you spent 30,000 dollars on this car don't you want to protect your investment by putting the right oil in it and changing it at least every 5,000 or so miles?
 
When Ford and Honda went to 5w20 spec oil we didn't carry it in bulk initially because we weren't sure they would keep up with using that oil. We had it in bottles and since it was a little more expensive then regular bottled oil we charged 4 or 5 dollars more for an oil change with 5w20.
 
We had people all the time that didn't want to put the 5w20 in because a 25 dollar oil change became 30 dollars.
 
We had people that didn't want to change the oil in the interval recommended because it took too long to get an oil change. On your regular mass market american or japanese sedan I could have someone in and out in less then 10 minutes. Actual 10 minutes from the time their car drove over the pit for oil changes till the time they were driving out of the parking lot. On some cars you could even do it faster. Toyota Carola that held less then 4 quarts of oil and had an easy to get to oil with no chassis lube points might take 5 minutes.
 
 Seriously you can't spend 10 minutes if you come by during non-peak times? If you really don't have the time then spend twice as much for full synthetic and more then double your drain interval. No, no, no that was too much money.
 
Sheesh drove me crazy.

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