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#18 of 155 Happy with the 05 Montego Premier AWD
Feb 03, 2005 (12:06 am)
Yesterday (2/1/05) George Wall Lincoln Mercury (NJ) delivered the car to my house and picked up my trade (my son's 1998 Nissan Sentra). This is my first domestic car since I purchased a 1987 Mercury Sable.
After driving it for about 60 miles yesterday and today I am pleased with the overall performance of this car. I do not offer this comment lightly and I have a lot of driving experience to back it up. Currently, I have 3 other cars, a 97 Nissan Pathfinder SE (the Montego is better in hp and pickup), a 2002 Acura 3.5 RL (with 225 hp I did not feel much difference compared to the Montego), and a 2004 MB E320 4Matic (also with 200+ hp I did not feel significant difference compared to the Montego). In terms of interior material, design, features, etc, the RL and E320 are better, but they are $18000 to $30000 more than the Montego. Prior to that I had Audi 5000, Nissan Altima, Nissan Maxima, Acura Legend, Acura RL and Honda Accord. Speaking about the Audi 5000, I got my first and only speeding ticket right after I passed a toll plaza on the Garden State Parkway. After giving me the ticket, the police officer cautioned me, "Watch out! This car is powerful." Guess how powerful the Audi 5000 was? (only 110 hp).
I don't think it is fair to criticize the Montego for using cheap material, outdated design, and "fatally underpowered". I particularly take exception to the "underpowered" issue. When I bought the 1995 Nissan Maxima CLE in 1994, its 190 hp was rated the most a V6 engine could produce. It won the 1995 Motor Trend Car of the Year Award. Many V6 cars on the road ate a lot of dust when I drove my Maxima passing them. If 190 hp was the best in 1994 and 1995, how come 203 hp becomes the worst in 2005? To me, the important point is: Does this car have enough power for uphill and everyday driving needs? People now ask for 250 or 300 hp for a V6 engine. It is OK if you prefer more horse power, but is it necessary? Some cars have 500 to 600 hp and why don't these people go for them? Why settle for 250/300?
I think the "Relative Value" concept is more important. "Do you get what you pay for" should be the yardstick. For $28300 (plus tax, extended warranty, tag, etc) I got the top of the line Montego AWD with all options, and I think it is a good deal. Although I have not driven the car long enough to give a final grade, I am a satisfied customer at this time. I encourage all people to give this car (and the Ford 500 and Ford Freestyle) a test drive and a fair trial. Except for those power-hungry nuts, I think you will be as happy as I am.
I will try to give you an updated report on this car after I have driven it for a few thousand miles.
#19 of 155 Re: Happy with the 05 Montego Premier AWD [alan7]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Feb 03, 2005 (6:49 am)
Congratulations! Members in our regular Ford Five Hundred/Mercury Montego discussion would be glad to exchange driving experience stories with you.
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#20 of 155 Ford FIVE HUNDRED SEL CVT
Feb 08, 2005 (7:36 pm)
Please let me know what price I could expect to pay for the Ford FIVE HUNDRED SEL AWD CVT. Thank you.
#21 of 155 Re: Ford FIVE HUNDRED SEL CVT [pamvan]
Feb 10, 2005 (4:12 pm)
It sounds like you're just getting started. Since prices vary from region to region, you'll want to let members know where you're shopping. You should also start by visiting our New Cars page here:
You can build the your vehicle, and at the end of the process you'll get three prices - invoice price, MSRP, and TMV (the average price others in your area are paying for this vehicle). That should help you get an idea where to start negotiating.
Good Luck !
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#22 of 155 Re: Ford FIVE HUNDRED SEL CVT [reuel3]
Feb 10, 2005 (7:00 pm)
You are right, I am just starting. The area we are buying in is Minneapolis/St. Paul. I appreciate the information furnished on the web site. I will look again at the specifics you have mentioned. Thank you.
#23 of 155 Comparing 500 SEL & Montego Luxury
Feb 13, 2005 (3:21 pm)
I will soon be buying either a Ford 500 SEL or a Mercury Montego Luxury AWD with CVT. I have test driven both cars and find them to have good acceleration (not underpowered, both 6 speed transmission and CVT), they handle well, are quiet and very roomy and the seating position is higher then almost all sedans. Both the 500 SEL and Montego Luxury are identically equipped except for one thing:
You have to pay extra for the 8 way power drivers seat, 6 disc in dash CD player/MP3 and power passenger seat in the Montego Luxury while in the 500 SEL, it's included. On top of that, the Montego Luxury lists for $200 more then the SEL. It costs $795 dollars in the Montego (comfort package). So, to get an equally equipped Montego, it lists for $995 dollars more. Because of this, I will probably get the 500; I couldn't drive the Montego thinking about not having that extra stuff in it while paying $200 more. All this must have happened because those LED tail lights and HID headlights must be expensive in the Montego to manufacture.
#24 of 155 Re: Comparing 500 SEL & Montego Luxury [gianetc]
Feb 14, 2005 (7:06 am)
You will not be disappointed buying either the Ford 500 SEL AWD or the Mercury Montego AWD. As far as options are concern, they are personal choice, and you have to pay for them. MB E320 charges $1200 for the lighting package and I dropped this option. My wife is happy without this light package. However, the Montego Limited AWD includes this feature and I like it a lot. You can see better and farther at night.
There is another point. The Lincoln Mercury division is the upscale wing of the Ford Company. So, if having a good car is your only concern, go for the 500 SEL AWD. Good luck and happy driving with your new car.
#25 of 155 Re: 2005 Mongego AWD pricing & extended warranty [alan7]
Feb 17, 2005 (11:55 am)
I had Warranty Direct on my Chrysler 300M. Never had a problem with claims. In fact they paid for replacement of my AC Evaporator coil 2 times. To avoid having to wait around the dealership for them to pay claim I just paid and submitted my claim with my approval # and had a check in hand within 10 days
#26 of 155 Re: 2005 Mongego AWD pricing & extended warranty [putter5]
Feb 22, 2005 (9:14 am)
Thank you for your info and experience with Warranty Direct. However, your info came a bit too late; I took delivery of my Montego AWD on 2/1/05 with the 6 year extended warranty from Ford. Nevertheless, it is nice to know there is an alternative when shopping for extended warranty.
Feb 28, 2005 (11:18 am)
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