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The information here has been of great help. However I wanted to shoot this across the bow of everybody here to see if something wrong big or small on this deal. Q7 Non-Premium with Comfort and Pan.Sunroof for Lease $605/- per month, 3000 inception including first month lease and including any and all charges, with residual of $25,700 after 36month/10K Thanks for all replies 
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Replying to: skolin (Mar 05, 2008 7:49 am) is any of the $3000 sales tax ? or is sales tax included in teh $605 ?
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Replying to: loggie (Mar 05, 2008 11:58 am) |
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I got my "Black Pearl" - a 2007 Audi Q7 4.2 (non-premium) with Technology and Entertainment packages in Jan 2007. Black Pearl (BP) is a replacement for a 1994 Acura Legend GS 6-speed "Blackbird" that I had for 14 years and a 150K miles. I wanted a vehicle that was safe, handled well, and elegantly put together. I test drove 2 vehicles - the Audi as well as the Acura MDX. I waited 2 years for the redesigned MDX, but after test driving both, I decided to go with the Audi. Now 10000 miles and 16 months later.............. Exterior: Audi's styling is classy. But with each passing day, it "grows" on you and seems to look even better. Recently, while standing about 20 feet in front of the Black Pearl, I convinced myself that it is one of the best looking SUVs around. It is also one of the few that look good from any angle. It conveys a strong presence without the muscular bravado of other large SUVs. And for a vehicle of its size, it has an amazingly low co-efficient of drag. Interior: While lacking the space-age console of some newer cars, the interior is typical Audi sharp. It is elegant, soft and far superior to the sterile and stiff insides of a BMW or a Mercedes. The lighting in the dashboard gauges are plain - the console's red glow of the console or a butane blue would have been a better choice. With pockets everywhere, storage space is more than adequate. The large glove box is big enough to hold letter-size paper and I use it exactly for that purpose. And how many of you know that it can serve as a cooler or a hot box? Each door has a receptacle to hold a water bottle or a large soda cup. While the rear windows are tinted, the sunshades for the rear passengers are invaluable since I have a toddler. Black Pearl comes with a smart key - I am not sure if this is standard on every model. In any case, I have gotten used to leaving the key in my pocket and having the headlights and wipers on light/rain sensing modes. Occasionally, though, the rain sensors take time to come on. The key itself folds into the side of the smart key fob and flips open at the touch of a button. One minor peeve - I usually keep the key in a pant pocket and the key release button gets pressed accidentally, the key opens out and stays in the locked position. The fob and the key together is about 4 inches long which can tear pant pockets if you are not careful. The seats are adequate, but lacking the plushness of a high-end Lexus or Mercedes. The seating areas are wide. This allows a car seat to be placed either in the ends or the middle while allowing comfortable seating for 2 more adults in either configuration. The third row has 2 seat belts, but seems almost wide enough to seat 3 kids. The leg room for the third row makes it actually usable. This was also an important consideration over the MDX whose third row leg space is minimal. Driving: Black Pearl handles like a sports sedan. It handles better than my 6-speed Legend GS as well as an Acura TL-S which is saying something. A clover leaf freeway onramp that I use regularly provides atleast 1 specific data point for this comparison. The Q7 is able to corner faster than either of the sport sedans both of which, like the Q7, have traction control. The comparison is also far superior to 2 other SUVs I had a chance to drive recently - a GMC Yukon and a Toyota Sequoia. In fairness, these were about 3 years old and perhaps they too might have improved. Some owners had complained of a "hesitation" during early acceleration. I have very rarely felt this and this is a non-issue for me. The braking is not as sharp as I would like. Admittedly, this vehicle is heavy and the disc brakes seem massive. But the braking distance is longer than I would like and this is one area where the Q7 performs below the sports sedans. Over the past year, I have had to brake urgently on a couple of occasions. On both occasions, I felt the ABS kick in and the Black Pearl slowed down while stubbornly remaining on a straight line. The 350 horses delivered by 4.2l engine has enough oomph that I have used the Sport mode sparingly. But when engaged, the engine's normal purr becomes a throaty growl and there is a little more pep as shifting higher is deferred at each speed. I would have much preferred a "Coast" mode which at freeway speeds would engage a higher gear and reduce the rpm yielding greated mileage. The bluetooth integration is perfect and works just as you would expect. It cuts off audio for an incoming call and resumes at the end of the call. As you enter/exit the car during a phone call, the system works just as you would expect. I did have 2 minor issues with the Bluetooth package: a) The Caller ID sometimes has a "off-by-one" error. b) I wish that you could disable the blue-tooth interface on a call-by-call basis if you wanted privacy for a particular call. However, with the new California rule requiring hands-free cell phone operation while driving, this may be moot. The rear view camera and the guide lines are perfect. The image of the rear bumper is also very useful. Do you know that there are 2 parking modes - one for parallel parking and the other for regular? Unfortunately, if you turned on the radio/CD, it turns off the rearview camera even when you are in reverse. Complaints (versus design issues): 1) The fuel door does not shut properly. But bending the door retainer hinge a little seemed to make it work. For such an expensive car, that is a poor design. 2) If the fuel cover is not closed correctly, the engine check light comes on. I always "click" the fuel cover shut at least 3 times. Even so, I got the engine light to turn on a couple of times. Again, this seems a poor design. 3) Sometimes, the MMI does not boot. Or the rear view camera does not turn on. Or the blue tooth does not connect. All these were resolved once I turned the vehicle OFF and restarted. 4) I wish the tailgate could be closed using the key fob. I am told this inability is because of liability issues. But a reversing feature (like in home garage doors) should be able to address this. 5) The fuel gauge (like in other cars) is non-linear. It comes down slowly at first and then suddenly goes down a lot faster. Same with the digital readout. 6) I wish the GPS map would let you move the map focus. This is especially useful if you want to get a magnified view of your destination even when you are at the start point. Design Issues: 1) Mileage is horrible. Though I drive at high speeds, I do not accelerate hard. But the mileage is rarely better than 14 mpg in mostly highway driving. You would think that a recent design with such good aerodynamics will do better. I keep a gas log. At the last gas fill, I had driven 9945 miles having used 660.39 gallons. At that time, the electronic gauge estimated 10 mi
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Replying to: ssivaram (May 26, 2008 11:00 pm) Design Issues: 1) Mileage is horrible. Though I drive at high speeds, I do not accelerate hard. But the mileage is rarely better than 14 mpg in mostly highway driving. You would think that a recent design with such good aerodynamics will do better. I keep a gas log. At the last gas fill, I had driven 9945 miles having used 660.39 gallons. At that time, the electronic gauge estimated 10 miles left. So, 9955 miles in 660.39 gallons yields exactly 15 mpg - not stellar by today's standards. 2) The head rests are not very adjustable - they can be raised and lowered, but do not flex forward and back. For a car with so much flexibility in everything else, I find this disappointing. 3) The 2nd row seats do not fold flat. Again, you would think that a vehicle in this generation would have this feature. 4) The luggage privacy bar is not foldable and cannot be stored in the vehicle if removed. For a car that prides itself on engineering, this is a glaring bug. 5) No overhead DVD entertainment system. 6) The MMI is not always intuitive. But once you are familiar with the basics, it works out OK. 7) The button to fold the side mirrors needs to be pushed down and turned. I feel it will give way soon. They should have put a simple knob there. 8) The cruise control control is positioned so close to the turn indicator control(which also controls hi-beam) that I have mistakenly used that a couple of times. 9) Some controls are non-intuitive. E.g., the console display modes can be changed (to display one of the following info - fuel consumption, GPS map etc. ) using the windshield wiper stick. This *is* strange. Summary: During the first ten thousand miles, the car has not shown any problems. The only issue was the fuel cap which, probably having not been turned completely shut, caused the engine light to come on. Performance has been exceptional. The interior and exterior are still pristine. My first Audi after 3 Honda/Acura models has been extremely well behaved thus far. Verdict: 5 Stars. |
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The electronics are very unstable in the Q7. I found the back hatch door to be temperamental and sometimes it will not work unless you turn the car off and then try again . It actually gets stuck 1/2 the way towards closing. Also as far as a safety issue being the reason for no FOB feature that is pure NONSENSE. The door will shut on you now even if you press the button to shut it - same saftey issue so that is probably a AUDI HQ BS story to get rid of a valid customer complainst. I am surpriised the Hiway safety guys have not recalled the vehicle just on this basis. I am glad I do not have small children! Also during he 1st week had my Q7 the passenger side front and rear windows would not operate. LASTLY DO NOT allow any moisture on the MMI area between the driver and passenger seats. The entire MMI system will short out and it will cost $1000 to repair and AUDI DOES NOT considers this a design flaw but instead a USER error. As one person on this site wrote. "They can make sure the moon roof does not leak BUT can't design the MMI to keep mositure out !!". There are at least 2 formal NATIONAL HighWAY Safety complaints on file ... scan this BLOG for info on MMI. I am now looking at the X5 for when my lease expires... Q7 is a great driving vehicle BUT audi has a non responsive customer service attitude of "take it or leave it". They truly just do not cxare once they have your MONEY ! |
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| Picked up my new Q7 3.6 Premium today with most options. Will post when I have some feedback. | |
I have about 600 miles on my 08 Q7 3.6 Prem and noticed that after I turn off the car and alarm it, the fan is still running for about another minute or so. Is this normal? Is this how the engine continues to cool itself off. Just curious if anyone knows.
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