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#580 of 588 Re: Any new studies? [jaxs1]
by starrow68
Mar 16, 2008 (7:14 am)
If you think a few years of ESC sales will be a major impact, think of the numbers.
With about 250M cars on the road in the US and sales of say 15M and less than
50% having ESC, the impact is going to be small until several years after the
requirement is on 100% of new sales. The saved lives figures were based on 100%
of the fleet having the system, which may get close about 2020 or later.
#581 of 588 Re: Stability Control Vendors? [starrow68]
by jaxs1
Mar 16, 2008 (9:25 am)
This video makes it look like Toyota's stability control still isn't as good as others.
It still keeps it from completely spinning out of control, but looks much more precarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH6TuPIipMQ
Here is a very good extended video of stability control on a Jaguar X-Type.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3m24bjkfg0
The Jaguar did better at high speed on ice than the Tundra did at much lower speed on wet asphalt.
#582 of 588 Re: Stability Control Vendors? [jaxs1]
by corvette
Mar 16, 2008 (3:20 pm)
"The Jaguar did better at high speed on ice than the Tundra did at much lower speed on wet asphalt."
The pickup truck test looked like it may have been done on a synthetic ice surface (enables icy road testing in milder climates). Even so, both of the pickups slid around quite a bit!
#585 of 588 Re: Development continues [starrow68]
by steve_ HOST
Feb 11, 2009 (9:22 pm)
Interesting stuff, especially the first article with the gizmo that's intended for "race track" use only, and your insurance company isn't going to like you being able to change the stability control parameters.
Chips are becoming pervasive in car systems eh?
#586 of 588 Re: Development continues [steve_]
by boaz47
Feb 12, 2009 (3:45 pm)
You know I believe I am getting close to ready to see them put a programing feature into our vehicles like an auto pilot. With the Volvo demonstrations on TV news showing a car that will stop itself if the driver isn't paying attention it seems as if we getting ready for the transportation pods. I didn't like ABS when it came out because I had learned to drive without it. Now I don't even notice unless I happen to be on a slick wet road and my tires slip on the painted white line. I don't think skid control will be noticeable to 99 percent of the drivers. It might be when it comes to the price of the vehicle but not because the driver notices anything. we have become used to power windows, power brakes, power stearing, even electric stearing, some cars have used brake by wire but I haven't tried it. I have seen a HUD and I was slightly impressed. I can get a radio I can talk to and it plays what I want it to. Maybe I am getting ready for a computer car.