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Engine, Diesel, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Truck
Oct 28, 2004 (11:34 am)
VT275 is lightly modifed version of the Ford V6 Powerstroke project engine. And it is being built at the Huntsville plant.
Rumor was that Nissan or Toyota were going to buy this engine for use in their USA only full size truck program to save on engine development cost. Not a lot of credibility in that rumor.
#9 of 16 Re: Navistar [moparbad]
Oct 28, 2004 (11:59 am)
It is used in Ranger in South America. I'd love to have one in a Ranger.
That was what I was trying to get out of Brazil. A crewcab Ranger drove from the tip of So America to the Arctic coast of Alaska. I talked to the two guys that drove it. They averaged with that diesel 45 mpg for the entire trip to that point. What a great little truck. I took lots of pictures and tried to get the local Ford dealer to look into them and he was not interested. There are midsized trucks that get great mileage. We are not given the opportunity to purchase them.
#10 of 16 Re: Navistar [moparbad]
Oct 28, 2004 (5:45 pm)
I guess we can probably thank the EPA for those wonderfully stout, fuel efficient engines not being available in North America.
And some of the bone headed decisions that Ford has made in the past, this one ranks way up there. I think there is a sizable market for a 1/2 ton diesel truck.
#11 of 16 Re: Navistar [mullins87]
Oct 28, 2004 (7:38 pm)
I think it is the EPA and CARB that have squashed the small diesel business in this country. For every small diesel truck I believe we would eliminate one bigger truck. Has to be better for the environment..
#12 of 16 Re: Navistar [gagrice]
Nov 01, 2004 (5:52 pm)
Not only bigger trucks, but quite possibly those 15mpg SUV's. I agree completely. No one will ever convince me that the diesel Ranger sold in South America, with it's supposedly unacceptable emissions and 45mpg, pollutes the air more than the same Ranger with a 4 cylinder gasser getting half that mileage.
This country in general equates diesels to the smoke belching trucks of 20 years ago and, to some extent, the GM diesel fiasco of the early '80s. I may be WAY off track, but diesels in the 3/4 and 1 ton market have really been successful. I see several moms hauling their kids around in them everyday. With the big three having good reputations with their diesels, I think it's only a matter of time before diesels make their way into the smaller vehicles. I wish someone would build a diesel hybrid. I bet that thing would get over 75mpg, maybe near 100mpg.
#13 of 16 Re: Navistar [mullins87]
Nov 01, 2004 (8:23 pm)
I wish someone would build a diesel hybrid. I bet that thing would get over 75mpg, maybe near 100mpg.
Chrysler has had this car since 1996. I think they are waiting for LiON batteries to get reasonable and clean diesel available everywhere in 2006.
The ESX3's mild hybrid electric (or "mybrid") powertrain combines a clean, efficient diesel engine, electric motor and state-of-the-art lithium-ion battery to achieve an average 72 miles per gallon
#14 of 16 Re: Navistar [gagrice]
Nov 02, 2004 (5:08 pm)
HOLY COW!!!! Why haven't I even heard of the ESX3 before tonight? Admittedly, cost is still a factor when buying something like this. But, that "extra cost" of a hybrid is getting smaller every year. I like that car! It's size and styling, along with the fact that I'm a diesel fan, is perfect.
#15 of 16 clean diesel
Nov 21, 2004 (9:43 am)
i think that new diesel with common rail injection and high presure injection along with the new cleaner diesel fuel i think that diesel are cleaner then gas
#16 of 16 Re: clean diesel [adam1]
Nov 21, 2004 (1:29 pm)
Common rail-high pressure injection systems are nothing new. I have been told that diesel emissions are already cleaner than gasoline emissions. I have to admit I'm no expert on the subject and haven't tried to verify that claim. I think the main sticking point is the general publics perception of diesels due to their "black smoke belching, foul smelling" predecessors from years ago.